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Bait Car is a reality TV show that has managed to capture my imagination, as it showcases life in the Liberals’ Utopia.

In the show a plainclothes cop driving the bait car abruptly abandons the vehicle usually in a high crime area. He creates a scene which draws attention to the car, and sets up one of those “if it’s too good to be true, it usually is” scenarios that stupid people fall for religiously.

You witness all the people in the area around the bait car in panoramic view; like studying animals in the wild. As you watch, part of the fun becomes guessing, “Which of these knuckleheads will take the bait?”

Some people just walk away, themselves wondering will get popped?  Others seem to try to work up the courage to steal the car.  Eventually one brave soul is willing to do the dirty work, and that person becomes the unpaid actor in that particular episode.

The car is wired for sound and has a hidden camera inside that captures everything. The cops hear every word, and see everything for the most part.  There is something disturbing about watching hoodlums rummage through a car, stealing things like small change, GPS systems, trying to find the trunk latch. You feel the inhumanity of theft, taking something for nothing, while witnessing the ease at which the criminal element acts.

Bait Car is a show where you know the outcome. The criminal will get caught. Part of you wants to feel sad for the perp, obviously warped enough to believe that they should just take something that is not theirs.  The sensible side of you is happy that you know he or she will be caught, yet at times you feel conflicted.  “Aren’t I supposed to root for the underdog?”

I watched an episode where a guy who had been to jail 17 times took an hour and a half to decide if he was going to steal the bait car. You witnessed his inner struggle with demons as he vacillated back and forth, trying to decide what to do.  He walked up to and away from that car about a dozen times, the bait car recording the audio of his fight with self each time he got within range. I found myself hoping he would do the right thing.

Suddenly night fell, and the demons overtook him; he stole the car and got popped. man’s values will win over. When they cut to the shot of him in the cop car headed to jail, the look in his eyes said, “I was a split second from making the right decision, but now I’m right back where I started.”

Turns out he had just gotten out of prison, and was happy to rejoin his family. He had hoped it would be longer.

In another episode after the setup, two guys jumped immediately into the bait car, and the driver looked to Heaven and  thanked God for his bounty.  He then demanded that his passenger do the same.

As they took off in the bait car, the driver reiterated that it was nice of God to put this opportunity in his lap.  Like he had gotten a great job or something or he had won the lottery.

When he and his friend were caught, the car’s audio got the driver saying, “Oh Lord, they got us!”

At least he’s consistent in his religion.

In another example, two perps steal the bait car, and the passenger says, “Lord I hope this ain’t one of them bait cars.”  It was. Bam! Two more knuckleheads off the streets.

The camera captures the takedowns, and you get to see the raw reactions when the criminal knows it over.  One guy swallowed crack rocks, then put the medicine vial that had contained the drugs between his butt cheeks.  Another perp said on undercover camera that he had weed on him. They found it in the car where he stashed it, thanks to his admission and the camera.

What’s cool about this show is the camera is the producer. The camera sits quietly hidden in the back, as the criminals do what they do for real.  The camera scripts nothing. There is nobody there to break into the action to ask the perp to say this or do this as it would make better TV.

Bait Car is not just reality TV, Bait Car is reality…and it’s not just about cars.  Bait car proves with each episode how bad Liberalism has failed, that the world is not the Utopian society that Liberals would have you believe.

© 2011 Kevin Jackson – The Black Sphere, LLC – All Rights Reserved

 
 
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  • Stephen

    The episode in New Orleans was some BS though. they parked the car blocking some lady's driveway, and she got in it and moved it. she then went to her vehicle and drove away, where she then got pulled over and questioned by the NOPD. I come from a LEO background, but this show is one good lawsuit away, if you ask me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

      They know when somebody is stealing the car or moving the car. About 1% of the people are good Samaritans, but the rest are LAZY DEADBEATS!

  • Lloyd

    Kevin, this is truly sad. However, I wonder if this is not the prelude to Bait Case. The ACLU, Gloria Allred and the liberal media will put the police on trial for entrapment and disenfranchising the poor who are only trying to make a better life for their family.

    • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

      They tried to call this entrapment, but the courts ruled that nobody is making them steal the cars. Just goes to show you how silly Liberals are. It's like saying the reason burglars break into homes is because the houses are there!

  • docjohndenver

    I think a better show might be "Jail Bait Car". You could put a hot girl who is about a week from her eighteenth birthday in the front seat. Then the thief could "take the bait" and "put the make on the bait". Sort of like a morphing of "Cash Cab" with "Teen Mom". Lloyd, I agree that the ACLU will have a field day with this one.

    • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

      LOL, Doc! Sounds like you might be sipping the Scotch in the office?

  • docjohndenver

    I resemble that remark! Have a great Thanksgiving, Kevin.

  • Lloyd

    Great idea Doc! Happy Thanksgiving to Kevin as well. Keep up the great work!

  • Kevin

    Kevin, Bait Car is one of my favorite shows and I love the way you were able to draw the comparison to modern day liberalism…there is no such thing as a free lunch… great job :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

      Thanks, Kev. I appreciate the comment. We need people to watch these shows for more than entertainment, so they will wake up to the world that Liberals have created.

      • fbrown

        Damn, Kev, this is some boring shit without the DownLow around. Happy Thanksgiving, one and all.

        • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

          LOL! I'm not sure where DL is, probably molesting little chirrens! Have a great Turkey Day!

  • ant

    Now if they can only find a way to put the folks from 'Jersey Shore' away, we'd really have some must-watch TV. Maybe some 'bait' steroids and a mini-denim skirt.

  • Middle Thinker

    Black conservatives try too hard to spin every ill in America with liberalism as it's root. This poor piece of journalism indicates as such. It would be interesting to see how the author tries to spin the pile of doggie do sponsored by Fox Reality, owned by Newcorp: Battle of The Bods, Camp Reality, Househusbands of Hollywood, My bare Lady, Seducing Cindy Margolis, Searching For The Next Elvira, and Sex Decoy. If the reality shows on "liberal networks" shows the decline of liberalism, then does the sorry sack of shows on Fox show conservatism is on decline as well?

    • blknred

      This article says nothing about the network airing the show, but liberals never let a small thing like the facts get in the way of a good rant. It does use the show bait car as an analogy of how the left does things. They offer you something you know you don't deserve. If you take it they let you enjoy it just long enough to make sure they have you. Then they flip the kill switch and the ride is over and so is your freedom.

    • docjohndenver

      Well, if conservatives spin everything to be about liberalism, liberals spin everything to about Fox News. This had nothing to do with who makes the show. The liberal fixation on Fox News borders on a neurosis. Have a good holiday season. Stay away from Fox News and you should enjoy it.

    • ant

      Maybe, if you can give an example of a 'conservative' show, besides "A Charlie Brown Christmas". But Kevin was not talking about the lean of programming, it is the criminalism of "I deserve other people's stuff", a seemingly liberal trademark, and the destruction of morals, and the persistence of poverty and criminality as a way of prospering foisted on the black community by liberal programming (not the TV kind).
      In other 'temptation on the street news', the religion of peaceniks have assaulted two more female journalists in Egypt. The feminists will begin shrieking in 3…2…1……hello?

      • Middle Thinker

        The question I ask now has not yet been ever answered by anyone who who claims to be a conservative. If entitlements are so bad, then why haven't GOP-led presidential and congressional administrations signed Executive orders or voted to end these same entitlements of welfare and social security? (((crickets)))

        Funny when FOX News is brought up, everything jumps to the defensive. The point of the matter is, the trash on reality shows cannot just be placed on the left. After all didn't Elizabeth Hasselbeck get her start on Survivor…and she is a conservative. These "so-called" liberals trademarks about "I deserve other people's stuff" runs just as rampant through conservatism as you say it does liberalism. After all, in GOP run states, the amount of welfare recipients and those in jail have percentages are just as high as liberal ones. You have millionaire and billionaire GOP congressmen and women getting pensions, expense accounts, and top-notch health care perks when they don't need them. You have corporations making billions in profits, paying zero taxes, yet are still getting subsidies. And where are black conservatives, Tea Party Members, and mainstream GOP on these particular issues? (((crickets))))

        • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

          Nobody is saying Conservatives are perfect, I'm certainly not. But I believe in God, and have an accountability gene, unlike Liberals who for the most part have roving sensibilities. Moral relativism is how LibTURDs operate. I'm sick of you pukes. I won't take the small part of you who may have two brain cells to rub together. I find those Liberals stupid. The rest are incorrigibles.

        • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

          I don't care what shows Fox has. I find most of TV ridiculous. But Bait Car is REAL, which is why I wrote about it. Stop trying to change the subject. Was I wrong about Bait Car? {Crickets!}

        • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

          I'll answer your question. Screw the GOP. Nobody says those fools are exonerated. Most of them need to go too! But Conservatism knows that you are entitled to what you EARN and anything else is CHARITY. The rest of your writings would make good navel lint. I'd like to see you talk about the MILLIONAIRES and BILLIONAIRE lying Leftists, who talk a good game and give NOTHING! Stop smoking those dung-based cigarettes!

        • docjohndenver

          Well, Middle Thinker, we finally agree on something. The GOP has done nothing to stop entitlement spending. And now that we are basically beyond bankrupt they seem to be getting the message. This makes them idiots that came to the party late. The Dems, whose patriarch FDR invented entitlement spending, are idiots who still don't realize the party is going on. As to the matter of Fox News, I couldn't care less what you say about them. Rupert Murdoch can take care of himself. I would rather watch paint dry than listen to Geraldo talk about his ex-wives or John Stossel spout some tripe about how the constitution protects polygamy. I just think the fact that liberals have Fox on the brain is funny. One cable channel. You guys are so used to the left running the media that it drives you crazy. And, frankly, I enjoy it. After all, it's the little things in life, right? Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

        • blknred

          Funny how liberals always try to dance around the topic when their arguments are shown to be either misguided or down right idiotic. Once again you fundamentally miss the whole purpose of the article. I would try to explain it for you again but I've already seen my fill of dance moves for the day

          • Middle Thinker

            To address your rant, no Jackson did not say what network the reality show came from. My point was that a conservative station can produce just as much trashy reality shows as much as liberal.

            My second point was to show how people on the right will procure entitlements just as much as you say liberals do. To repeat my example to you I took the argument to Congress, and industry, where there are companies receiving millions in subsidies and making billions in profit, yet are receiving subsidies. The fact that the GOP voted against ending these same entitlement in congress highlights and nullifies Jackson's stance that the show could be based solely on the left.

            So in effect you did not refute the logic in my argument. I took the time to explain it further to you. Go find another dance move for this one.

          • blknred

            To your first point he never says the show is trashy, just interesting in its similarity to liberal utopia. To your second point, I have seen plenty of resistance from the right on subsidies. Unfortunately there hasn't been enough. But I haven't seen any from the left. Now why is that? Also the corporations that get these subsidies contribute to the democratic party on a much larger scale. And by corporations do you mean places like GE (who's boss got a job from Obama) and Solyndra (who got a bailout from this administration right before declaring bankruptcy)?

          • Middle Thinker

            Don't forget Romney's ties to Solyndra
            http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/190241-r
            http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/09/13/317838/

            As for GE. They gave money to both the right and left in the same amounts for 2012. President Obama received 24,000 and Mitt Romney received 23,300.
            http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=

            The difference between you and me. You talk without backing stuff up. I prove my point time and time again.

          • blknred

            Once again you have shown either your inability or unwillingness to read statements and respond accordingly. In my post I said that GE gave more to the democratic party, not Barak Obama http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D0
            it clearly shows that GE gave the democrats twice as much as republicans
            (2.3 mil vs 1.2 mil). And this administration, not Romney, gave them bail out money even though they knew Solyndra was failing. So you see the real difference between you and me is I go by the facts without cherry picking, The only point you prove is that you don't know how to stay on topic.

      • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

        Ant, you are now Professor Ant. School this fool!

        • ant

          Dang, I got back to the party late, it seems. But looks like you, Kevin, have taken him to task well enough. And that's never easy, not because lefties make valid points based on facts, but because they constantly twist their arguments while debating, contradict themselves, call on hordes of strawmen, and just make inane and stupid statements, usually tangents that have nothing to do with the subject, (like Fox Derangement Syndrome). It gets frustrating, my hat is off to you, Kevin. You handle yourself with patience, and I've read some really rude and dumb comments directed at you, but you take the time to answer even those.
          I would like to remind Middle Finger, though, that even a rational, economic savvy conservative like Paul Ryan, has been marginalized and demonized for actually coming up with a budget, imagine the crucifixion of a conservative that would follow Middle's advice by doing the Obama tyrant thing and ruling by Executive order, especially while cutting entitlements. Obama's in charge, Middle, "corporate welfare", etc., is owned by the Dems.

        • Middle Thinker

          No, you boy got schooled time and time again.

      • docjohndenver

        ant, as always, WELL SAID, MY FRIEND. The "feminists" sold their soul to William Jefferson Clinton. When he was accused multiple times and they made fun of the victims (some of whom got payouts that liberals were so aghast at in the Cain affair), that was it for me. NOW is essentially just another leftist lobbying group that is becoming more irrelevant by the minute. Sad, because where else are women that don't shave their pits going to go for fellowship?

    • http://www.facebook.com/theblacksphere Kevin Jackson

      Every ill in America is because of Liberalism…no spin necessary!

  • Middle Thinker

    Kevin,

    Just to be fair, I feel ALL CONGRESSMAN should serve on their own merits because they are already million and billionaires. No perks, and ban all lobbyists, and special interest groups from the Beltway and truly serve for the people.

    Fox News means nothing to me. It's amazing, though, how so many republicans and Tea Party members get their news from this station. it's really a laugh when Hannity, Stossel, Riovera, and others talk about Muslims, while at the same time their paychecks are signed by a Saudi who owns 7% of News Corp.

    Conservatism-especially black conservatism-is REALLY a riot because you are hoping for something that does not exist: a candidate who really stands for their views. There are definitely none who are running for the GOP platform now. Herman Cain? His own wife and church votes democratic, and he himself is said to have voted for Clinton when he was running. All the talk about the non-politician floated out the window after he posed with the Koch Brothers and said, "They are my brothers from another mother."

    So now you claim, Kevin, that the right is not perfect. Typical response from a black conservative when real truth start to come out and hypocrisy that the views you espouse does not match up to the candidates you support. As for schooling me, I am on black conservative blogs and social network sites everyday refuting views and ideals. Invariably the responses are like yours reverting to insults, name calling, and calling on others to fight the battles (and lose) the defend the views you either can't or won't defend.

    • docjohndenver

      So a conservative saying "the right is not perfect" is some kind of capitulation? Wow. Is that like your response to me that "I never said POTUS was all good with me" or some such thing. How could anyone be completely happy with either party the way the last five to ten years has gone. Your proclamation that conservatives "invariably revert to insults, name calling, etc." is absurd on its face. My experience on websites is that the hard left is by far the most vociferous and vulgar in the name-calling department. The meanest retort you will ever find would never come close to what goes on the Huffington Post and Daily Kos on a daily basis. Please. You are a formidable opponent, but that is ridiculous, as is your assertion that no candidate stands for a black conservative's views. One of the things that I have learned from Kevin is that the needs and concerns of a black conservative are virtually the same as those of a white conservative. It is the left that is somehow threatened by a black person espousing right of center views. And I find it weird, given the fact that my black patients are invariably more conservative in their religious and moral views than my white ones. God forbid that they begin to vote in line with their morality. That would be the death knell for liberalism, wouldn't it?

      • Middle Thinker

        This is the post that was deleted earlier by the admin: let's see how long it lasts.

        The only way to get a capitulation from a conservative-black or otherwise-is when the facts are thrown back at them. Then it's backpedal time, because people like Kevin act like they are above anyone who doesn't think like he does. I saw his interviews on You Tube, fast-talking does not make a person truly informed. His own comments about <<educating a fool>> show exactly what I am talking about when I come on black conservative boards. I stay with facts, they are the ones who get upset.

        • docjohndenver

          We will all have to run right out and get your book. The great "facts" that you talk about are easily googled red herrings that have nothing to do with the current disaster we are headed for. I mean, do you really think anybody here cares whether some Saudi owns 7% of News Corp?! I understand why you don't want to deal with them, but let's state some irrefutable facts and see if you actually deal with them:
          1. One trillion dollar "stimulus" does not help the 9% unemployment and >20% underemployment rates.
          2. Two thirds of the country wishes Obamacare did not exist.
          3. Medical insurance has gone UP 10-30% across the country.
          4. Iran is getting closer to going nuclear and we have done NOTHING.
          5. The brilliant "supercommittee" got NOTHING done. (Oh, I know, this is all those nasty Republicans' fault).
          6. Rendition, Gitmo, and all those nasty Patriot Act bugged calls that Obama screamed about are still in place.
          7. Mexican drug cartels are killing people (including Federal agents) with AR 15s we sold to them and Eric Holder is pulling a Sargent Schultz ("I know nothing!")

          • Middle Thinker

            Amazing we keep going back to Fox, but the most amusing thing is that the right thinks they are so informed by watching this channel when they are supporting the same thing they say they are against. Just one of many examples of the hypocrisy on the right.

            But all of these irrefutable fact I will reply to and show that the fault does not lie at the feet of the President.

            The stimulus was designed to be given to state governors to increase jobs. Many of the states- particularly the GOP-denied they wanted the money, then took it on the sly and used the dollar allocated to initiate job growth was spent balancing budgets that were already in record deficits. One governor in particular who did this was Rick Perry. I guess, though, you will still try to say it is the president's fault the states misappropriated their funds, right?

            As for job growth, we are still under the Bush Tax Cuts, right. You know, the same one the GOP Congress pushed for and said that if they were passed there would be jobs. At the same time, President Obama signed five pieces of legislation geared the GOP introduced that were supposed to ease regulation and facilitate job growth. And the President did all of this even though the GOP is not working with him and made it up in their minds to try to make him a one-term president. So if there is not any job growth, it is because the President is using policies that the GOP is pushing that are well-known to increase personal growth for the wealthy but not produce jobs.

          • Middle Thinker

            Obamacare. Once again, it gives me great pleasure to talk about things that conservatives and the GOP say they are against but the same legislation the people they vote in promote (LOL). Obamacare, Romneycare, The Universal health Plan passed by Congressional Republicans in 1993, are all the brainchildren of plans created by The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. While you quote figures that 2/3 of the public does not like Obamacare, politicans like Newt Gingrinch and Rick Perry were in favor of individual mandates in plans similar to President Obama's. In other words, docjon, the same plan you are against was started by who……conservatives.

            OOPS.

          • Middle Thinker

            You say, <<Iran is getting closer to going nuclear and we have done nothing>>. So what would you do, docjohn, if you were president. I guess it is not enough for President Obama to say as a country we will stand by Israel.

          • Middle Thinker

            Your reply <<The "supercommittee" has done nothing.>> Yes, it is the Republicans fault. The reason why the US was downgraded in the first place, according to the S&P, was because there was too much talk about cuts and not enough about increasing revenue. And guess who ballyhooed all through the process about making cuts? It was the right.

          • docjohndenver

            If you believe the reason we were downgraded is because of not enough taxation and was not about too much spending you are beyond help and really are not worth discussing this with. The supercommittee was destined to fail. Everyone with half a brain knew this, left and right. It came out of a desultory economic result of this President and his spend, spend, spend approach to government.

            And, once again, if you think the President has been a friend of Israel, given what he has said and done to embarrass Netanyahu, you are once again just another leftist koolaid drinker. It seems I may have given you too much credit in the beginning. I can tell you that Israelis are quickly changing their thoughts about Obama, which were lukewarm in the first place. Anything below about an 70% approval rating in Israel for an American president (given that we are Israel's only friend) is a disaster.

          • ant

            Sorry, everything you've stated above is a lie.

          • Middle Thinker

            Ant: I am not lying, you were misinformed and led to believe stuff conservatives have been feeding you without checking facts yourself:
            http://www.heritage.org/Research/Commentary/2008/…. This states the Heritage Foundation created Individual Mandates, the foundation for Mitt Romney, and President Obama's plan.
            http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204

            Debate between Romney and Gingrinch showing they both supported individual mandate. President Obama's Plan came from Romneys
            http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/30/rick-perrys-cam

            Rick Perry supporting Hillarycare.
            http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statement
            http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2010/Febr

            Republicans supporting Universal Health Care

            People call you professor ant, but you have just been schooled. Class dismissed.

          • ant

            This is one of the traits I find so annoying about the left, they are so wrapped up in their ideology that they don't open their eyes. I am not disputing Romneycare or any other conservatives talk on healtcare reform. If your little mind can think back far enough, even during the Obamacare so-called debates, and before, conservatives have expressed changes, including tort reform, which was largely ignored. Gee, I wonder why a bunch of 'lawyers' would ignore calls for tort reform? You'll also note that it was believed these changes should largely occur on a State by State basis. Keep what works and throw the rest out. Not a wide-sweeping Federal program guaranteed to cost billions and become a raging failure, unplugging granny's respirator ( What Obama, super-genius, calls a breathalizer), providing even more entitlements to those whose hearts belong to Mexico, and abortion on demand for everyone. These were just some of the protests of a federally mandated, unConstitutional Bill.

          • ant

            Your argument (keeping in mind that I'm not refuting the claim that Republicans have brought up healthcare reform) contradicts the liberal talking point that Republicans are heartless Nazis that want us all to die, want us to breath dirty air, drink dirty water, and push Grandma off a cliff. But this is another characteristic of the tendency to falsehoods of libtards, contradict anything you may have said, if it helps you make your present point.

          • ant

            As Kevin has pointed out, we are conservatives, not necessarily Republicans. We are not liberals, we do not fall into lockstep with our 'leaders', ignoring common-sense and decency, to regurgitate inane talking-points like mindless drones.
            Newt shared a seat with Pelosi on Global-warming, Bush and others have done nothing concerning the border, but talk of Amnesty and entitlements. Republicans in the House gave Obama more money to spend and got a lousy super-committee out of the deal. These are not shared values.
            Just as liberals and the media still can't wrap their heads around the TeaParty, you guys can't understand conservatism. It is a mind-set, an independent collection of core values, not a Party. What unites us is actually independence, a like-minded logic, not a money-rooted movement to pick leaders in return for some personal benefit, but a commitment to freedom and a Constitutional system of law and liberty.
            You think we're "Republicans" and will unite behind some leader the MSM/DNC has chosen for us and deemed 'electable'. This is where you're confused and where you will find your defeat.

          • docjohndenver

            Dadgum, ant, well said. (Incidentally, I said "dadgum" in order to confirm Middle Earth's suspicions that I am a dumb redneck.)

          • Middle Thinker

            Once you came with the "your little mind comment," in your previous post you showed the typical trait I find with conservatives in that quite a few resort to name calling and insults when nothing else is left. The problem with black conservatives is that they feel only they can think independent. People on the left have just as much intelligence and self awareness of politicians and legislation as much as conservatives "think" they have.

          • ant

            I'm not even going to bother with the rest of the lies in your above post. You keep believing what you believe, no matter how un-constructive, and I will continue laughing at you and your ilk.

          • Middle Thinker

            Ant, the biggest joke is you and people like you because you find yourself supporting political views of people who don't even follow through on what you believe. The independence you claim is a farce. You can't bother with the rest of the post because you really won't have answers to the truth I will bring forth.

          • ant

            Middle, I'm not going to address the rest of your post because I don't feel like dealing in fairy tales today, such as "Republicans caused the credit downgrade". Nonsense, by stating such, you acknowledge that you not only lie, but you must believe Obama is a useless President. That would only stand to reason if he and the country can be ruined by a Republican minority, right?
            How do you know who I support? By your claim above, it also stands to reason that the Democrats in office support your political view. Which means;

          • Middle Thinker

            No, actually BOTH parties are responsible, although the right has been in control more over the past 30 years, and raised the debt ceiling more times.

          • ant

            Like Pelosi, you believe unemployment and food stamps are the best economic stimulus. You must believe, like Pelosi, that the Catholic Church was founded the day after the crucifixion, and immediately went to work on the abortion issue, which, according to her, they still haven't taken a position on. (That's only 2 things, she's a genius that one).
            LIke Babs Boxer, you must believe the TSA agents must be registered Democrats and must search the diapers of blond-haired American babies, or dose people's skin with radiation in order to keep us safe.

            However, like most Democrats that safety screen doesn't apply to the border, but then again the Iranians, Mexicans, etc., are only streaming through to do the work that 15 million unemployed Americans don't want to do.

          • Middle Thinker

            I see this talk is taking a downward spiral on YOUR end. I Never mentioned Pelosi on ANY of my post, or made reference to anything about Boxer, the Catholic Church, or TSA agents.

          • ant

            Nobody mentioned Fox News either, but that didn't stop you from having the usual liberal convulsions over it. Again, as is typical lib, your comprehension isn't there. You make the claim we are somehow blemished or something, because we vote for people that don't share/follow up on our true values (as if that's something new, thanks for explaining Washington for us, but we already know politicians are a necessary evil). So, LIKE I ALREADY SAID, that must mean the people you vote for do share yours, hence the examples. Please do keep up.

          • ant

            As a democrat that feels he's being propoerly represented, you must also agree;
            Government has the right to control your behavior, such as eating, through punitive taxes and other means.
            Giving some people tax money to buy new cars, while destroying the decent assets that were the used cars, is a genius economic move.
            Trillions of dollars of debt should not stop us from giving money to Palestinians and Pakistan to reward terrorist 'heroes', giving money to Brazilian oil, while continuing to make American energy independence a 'dirty word', or campaigning around in a big, Canadian bus for half your Presidency. Spending 50 million on personal travel expenses, etc., hmmph..chump change.
            Other good ideas, you must agree with; shut down an American Guitar Company during a tough economy on bogus charges, sell guns to drug cartels and MS-13 gangs, take money from parents of disabled children to give to the Unions, Occupiers are geniuses and peaceful, thoughtful people. Communism just hasn't been done right, we'll get it this time, we have Maxine Waters to help us.

          • ant

            This is why I have no qualms with referring to liberals with such terms as, "little mind". To be a Marxist (Democrat) in America is to be an idiot. Sorry, just the way it is. I love the way every lkiberal I ever converse with, starts whining at the derogatory remarks, you guys better toughen up if your gonna pull the civil war on us that's been threatened.
            I've been called racist, Nazi, rube, clinger, ignoramus, misogynist, homophobe, Islamophobe, extremist, corporate shill, lazy, soft, violent, hateful, and on and on by our so-called Representation and a President that has decided he's only President to some people. You don't hear me cryin'.

          • Middle Thinker

            Patriot Act. Sure, the President signed this back in to law, but the majority of Republicans and Tea Party members were the ones backing the extension. If he did not sign it at all, the right bloggers and pundits would have spun it he does not care about national security.

          • docjohndenver

            Oh, he is no longer even responsible for what he signs. What a joke. Your defenses of this guy are getting thinner and thinner.

          • Middle Thinker

            Sure he is responsible since he has the final say on what goes into law and it was an eye opener because it was extended, but the one who is delusional is YOU if you fail to see the party you are supporting is working against the same things you support. Look through the Roll Call and see how many Republican House member and Senate voted for this.

          • docjohndenver

            Dear Middle Earth: JRR Tolkien, your creator, would be proud of your ability to just…well,…make stuff up. I do not "support" the Republican Party. If you followed this site you would know that I have been very critical of the Bush administration and have said multiple times that the Republicans spent their way out of office. And deserved to lose power. Unfortunately, they got replaced with possibly the most inept, unqualified president this side of Jimma, the peanut farmer.
            I do not have any problem, by the way, with the Patriot Act. I just think it is the height of hypocrisy to bang on the Bush administration for rendition, military tribunals, the patriot act, and gitmo. And then refuse to shut down gitmo, continue the patriot act (and benefit from it), and refuse to try terrorists publicly even though Obama and his minions called for it over and over. The primary difference between me and you (other than that you are writing an important book) is that I call it like I see it on both sides. They have both spent like a trophy wife. Have a great rest of the week. Enjoy the Koolaid.

          • Middle Thinker

            I wonder what flavor of kool-aid you are drinking, because what I post I can backed up with truth. For the record, I worship God, He is my Savior. The JRR Toliken stuff , shows the digression-or perhaps the facade on your part-of "intelligent" conservation to insults. As I just told Ant, that is typical of the right, typically black conservatives. I never said I supported the democrats, I have both left and right views. The Patriot Act should have been overturned and GITMO closed. I don't support abortion. And so on. But I can correct liberals as much as conservatives. By the way, you called yourself a redneck. My intelligence and thought process are so I don't need to insult anyone. Unfortunately, you do, so have a good day.

          • docjohndenver

            I'm sorry, did the Middle Earth thing hurt your leftist feelings? I meant to say "little thinker". Woops, sometimes I just can't help myself. This, once again, proves that the left has no sense of humor. I make a joke about your pen name and call myself a redneck to show good faith in laughing at myself. And you go on some sort of self-righteous rant to somehow prove your seriousness, or whatever. Your "backed up by the truth" is a joke. I have given you several hypocritical problems with your hero, Mr. Obama, and you FINALLY admit that he should have done what he railed about on the campaign trail. If you are insulted by a JRR Tolkien joke, LIGHTEN UP! Only leftists call themself "thinker" and then get insulted when somebody makes a joke about it.

          • docjohndenver

            Incidentally, I am underwhelmed with your grand giving of facts and knowledge to us conservatives. I would try to actually explain conservatism to you, but ant already did a yeoman's job of that. His are some of the most intelligent posts on ANY site, and he named himself after a tiny insect. See, conservatives have a sense of humor. Mesh, an accountant by trade (obviously bright) named himself after a Swedish metal band, and I named myself after my occupation and the world's worst 70s folk singer (with apologies to Pete Seeger who was more the 60s). Get a laugh track to your life, man. Quit telling you are critical of both sides. That only came out after I called you on it ten times. BTW, Jesus is my Lord and savior, too, and I think he has a sense of humor. I mean, just look at Obama's ears. That had to be a joke, right.

          • ant

            Doc, Middlefinger, seems to be real sensitive to the little jabs, but has no problem painting everyone on this site with one broadbrush. He/she must be psychic, Middle not only knows our beliefs but knows who we support, vote for, etc.

          • ant

            Btw, thanks for the compliment. And you got it right, an ant is just a cog in the wheel of a productive society that works hard, and a formidable foe when they work as an army. No grasshoppers could compare.

          • docjohndenver

            Yeah, we do tend to get a little tougher exterior since we are everything-phobic according to these goofballs. It's funny how most of my gay, minority, poor patients don't think I'm racist, homophobic, or elitist. Weird.

          • Middle Thinker

            Amazing that after shredding and refuting the rants from conservatives I am called self-righteous. I have seen it on many boards (LOL)

            And I do have a sense of humor. When I read yours and Ant's comments I get a laugh every time (LOL).

          • Middle Thinker

            Not insulted at all. I wrote you off as a joke a long time ago (LOL). All you did was further confirm what I already know: when someone ruffles the feathers of a conservative with truth, then they come with insults. Because they have nothing left.

            You say that I have not proven anything with my links. Well go back and refute what I posted, "DOC"

            Your words:

            <<Only leftists call themself "thinker" and then get insulted when somebody makes a joke about it. >>

            My comment:
            http://theindependentthinker.blogtownhall.com/

            For the uninformed conservative, townhall is a conservative blog.

            You can take your foot out of your mouth now (LOL)

          • docjohndenver

            You haven't refuted anything here. I have given you a run down multiple times of all of the ridiculous actions of your hero and you never answer them. You seem to be quite impressed with the fact that you have written in a few journals or blogs. Big deal. Pretty much everyone I work with has been published numerous times. People secure in their lives don't constantly toot their own horns. You have given ONE excellent post regarding how abortion rates could go down. It is something that most conservatives would be proud of. Of course it was partly a dodge in order to not comment on Obama's heinous remark, but well written nonetheless. Otherwise, you have used this blog primarily as an advertising space. But I am glad you have a sense of humor. I'll just have to take your word for it.

          • docjohndenver

            To be clear, I like the red Koolaid. It is not really a particular flavor. It just sort of tastes…."red". When my wife and I got married 25 years ago she used to clip coupons because we didn't have two nickels to rub together. And she bought the stuff by the gallon. And I drank it. It was a good experience for us as a couple, as a future family. I think the idiots at OWS could learn something from it…hard work followed by delayed reward….spending the day together at the park doing, well, nothing. These are experiences that the leftist youth of this increasingly lazy country really need. Now, I know you are sensitive, so do NOT TAKE THIS JAB PERSONALLY. I do not include you (or any other aspiring authors) in this mix. I now understand that you are a left-of-center, right-of center centrist, leftist, conservative, liberal "thinker".

  • Middle Thinker

    Just to show how shallow this board and the mindset of some black conservatives, they just deleted my comment. There was no cursing, name calling, just pure unadulterated truth. And this why someone like me has no fear of any conservatives-black or white. As an author I am in the process of writing a book that is guaranteed to draw the ire of black conservatives, because with intelligent debate and irrefutable facts, nothing can be done but to try to suppress what is true.

    • Meshuggahboy

      If your book is half as tedious as your posts on here, you're going to make a lot of money in the pharmaceutical industry as a substitute for sleeping pills. Funny how you call yourself Middle Thinker, why isn't your name Left Thinker instead? Probably the same reason the left has started calling taxes "revenues".

      • Middle Thinker

        You have never seen an endorsement of the democratic party on ANY of my posts. I just correct black conservatives when they are uniformed or just simply wallowing in their biases and saying things that are not true. I don't agree with democrats and everything they do either, but why add my views when so many others are willing to bash liberals.

        • docjohndenver

          As an important author I am sure you do not make typos like the rest of us do. So I just wonder why you would correct a "uniformed" black conservative. We need to respect our people in uniform, black or white. "Why bash liberals?" Hmmm, maybe you shouldn't be an author. You are better suited to be a TV newsman, I think (oops, except for those right wing meanies at Fox that you are obsessed with.)

          • Middle Thinker

            You keep bring up FOX for some reason. I wonder why?

            But you show when you don't have anything else you say, you revert to talking about typos. When my book does comes out, it will have facts, no typos, and truth about black conservatives. I will look to this blog as an inspiration, because it was written in mind for black and white conservatives who act and think like they know it all and look down on other who don't think like they do.

          • docjohndenver

            YOU bring up fox. I think you can look back and see that you mentioned Fox numerous times before I picked up on it as funny. I hope you do look to this blog as inspiration. But you really ought to look to Kevin's book. His is a story about how a person with one foot in two different worlds comes to the understanding that self-reliant conservatism suits him. I am very aware that I don't know "it all". My wife and children remind me of this all the time. If they don't, my patients do. If they don't, my staff does…..And of course, there is always you to remind me as well. Thank you, Middle Earth, for all that you are and all that you do for us little people.

          • Middle Thinker

            Including you last comment, the FOX Count is 5 to 5. You mentioned it as much as I did (LOL).

          • docjohndenver

            It is not my fault if you do not understand initial comments and reactions/jokes about comments. Of course, that's how the left is. Someone blows up a schoolyard and the government of said schoolyard reacts, and the left describes it as a "cycle of violence". LOL yourself, Middle School. I am, however, very impressed that you went back and counted. If you ever get tired of being a big, important writer, you are now qualified to be an eight year old girl.

          • Middle Thinker

            Yeah, and one of the chapters will be called, "How To Tell You Are Getting Under A Black Conservatives (Or Any Other Conservatives' Skin)

            (1)-(100) Tell them facts and watch them get defensive, implode, and become upset (LOL).

          • docjohndenver

            Whatever. A liberal may get under my skin someday but it won't be you. I am underwhelmed with your grand wealth of knowledge, to say the least.

      • Middle Thinker

        Or why the mantra on the right is "taxing the job creators" when one of your own, Mike Pence, R -Ind, slipped up and said Bush Tax Cuts are not creating jobs in 2010, yet STILL wanted tax cuts.

    • ant

      You are a liberal Democrat and you're writing a book of intelligent debate and irrefutable facts? That's a contradiction, liberals are neither intelligent or fond of facts. That's like calling Pelosi a theoligian or Obama a leader. Keep saying stuff like that and you rip the time-space continuum.

  • Middle Thinker

    Ant,

    Where else do you want to have your views thrown back in your face? Abortion? Martin Luther King Jr. A Republican?

    • ant

      You, apparently, already know all our views, so why don't you start without me? Go ahead and tell me what I think, then link to leftist sites that support your particular view, then come back and tell us how smart you are.

      • Middle Thinker

        Or show how uninformed you are.

        • ant

          Still waiting.
          Oh, wait,.. don't tell me. Fox news, Foxnews!!! Bush!……Enron!…Bush!!…..Did I mention Fox News?!!! ….Bush!!

        • ant

          Wall Street!!!….. Fat Cats!!!!.. Bush tax cuts!!!!……..R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N-S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          There, now I'm informed.

          • Middle Thinker

            Oh, I will be back with the facts. Got more things in life than to debate some issues.

          • Middle Thinker

            MLK Jr. The right thinks MLK Jr was a Republican, but in his time he favored reparations, public assistance, a minimum wage, and poverty assistance. For these things he was labeled a communist, which is ironic considering these views are the same things the right speaks out against. In addition, MLK Jr. worked with Southern Democrats in Mississippi during voter drives and spoke out against the GOP during their national conventions for the racists elements within their party. When King was arrested in Birmingham MLK Jr's father sought out Robert Kennedy-not the Republicans-for helping getting his son out of jail.

          • docjohndenver

            Congratulations for finally learning how to use Google.

          • ant

            And when MLK Jr. comes back from the dead to destroy jobs, spend us into oblivion and commit ethical and actual crimes against the People, maybe I'll care.

    • IceColdTroll

      What could be MORE racist than demanding that a man's politics be determined by the color of his skin?

  • docjohndenver

    Interesting that you brought up "I don't support abortion." Neither do I because as a second year resident I had to tear a 5 month fetus out of a cocaine-amped woman who was bleeding behind the head (it was caught breech in a 5 cm dilated cervix). So God spared the woman's life that night, but the baby died in my hands. But as I held that lifeless form, I knew something. It was a BABY. There was no two ways about it. Now, admittedly, abortion is a tough topic politically. But utilitarian arguments like Obama's are heinous. He actually said if his girls made a mistake "I don't want them punished with a baby." So if you are really against abortion, how could you possibly support him? Doesn't a comment like that trump everything else?! He accknowledges a fetus is a baby, and still makes a comment that would make Hegel or Marx blush. Pathetic. A person can be pro-choice for many reasons, but if they admit that a fetus is a baby and continue to support abortion, they have serious moral issues. The only way to make a pro-choice argument without being amoral is to say that a fetus is less than a separate life.

  • Middle Thinker

    Abortion has had support from congressmen and women and administrations-both left and right, liberal and conservative. If as black people in our communities we are intervening with our children BEFORE they re making decisions to have children, meaning mentoring, advocating, and building their self esteem, or in the case of things happening standing ready to adopt, then abortion would not be an issue in our community regardless of who support it.

    • Meshuggahboy

      In other words, taking care of your own life and family, and supporting yourself instead of depending on the government for everything. Is the math sinking in yet?

      • docjohndenver

        Only in America can a Swedish metalhead accountant say something that smart, and yet succinct. Makes me proud to own a seven string Ibanez speed metal guitar.

        • Meshuggahboy

          Thanks Doc. Good choice on the Ibanez too, I have one myself.

    • docjohndenver

      I agree with everything you just said. i just wish our president had never said what he said. It was the most classless, base, immoral statement I have ever heard from a president in my lifetime. And I am in my late forties. But your statement here is beautiful.

  • IceColdTroll

    What is truly grievous is this: it is largely the welfare state system which has not only made unwed motherhood a viable lifestyle choice, but serial motherhood, along with a social message that unwed motherhood is somehow bold, innovative, and "empowering" which is the root cause of the statistic elsewhere on this site, and exemplified in the story above, that more black men are in jail than in college. A study done recently discovered that a stable, two-parent home is the most effective crime-prevention program of all. How effective? What other figure is commonly thrown up, that black men, who are about 10% of the general population comprise about 75% of the prison population? (Oh, and that fact is usually followed with the charge, implicit or explicit, that that is because of "institutional racism.".) How effective? After correcting for single-parent homes -the overwhelming majority of which are unwed mother homes- the crime disparity between black and white virtually disappears.

  • IceColdTroll

    http://www.marriagedebate.com/pdf/imapp.crimefams
    Here's one point of reference. Look up the rest yourself.