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allenwestMy good friend Marie Stroughter, a member of African-American Conservatives was asked to discuss conservative blacks in politics, and as always, the Left call us tokens, Step-n-Fetchits, Uncle Toms and so on.

I am often asked what it’s like to be a black Conservative, and I find the subject interesting, in that there is interest. I don’t think of myself as a black conservative, but a Conservative who happens to be black. If I were white, I’m sure I’d be accused of being a Democrat, aka in the KKK (note the humor), because I would be just as vocal. It’s about HUMAN rights, and Conservatives seem too willing to give up theirs.

We are discussing gun-control, but there is a reason guns are the 2nd amendment and free speech is the 1st. White Conservatives have ceded their free speech, but most black Conservatives have not. It is for this reason Allen West said that Liberals fear black Conservatives. They cannot lynch us anymore, though I’m sure they would like to.

Check out Marie’s blog on the issue, and you can catch the segment here.

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  • http://twitter.com/CibolaRep CibolaReport

    Can you put in a link to share on twitter and facebook, etc. Black Conservative MUST get their voices out and the face of Black Conservatism seen by all means available.

  • Guest

    Calling oneself a black conservative is unfortunately necessary, because of the intellectual insularity that has pervaded much of black life. It’s an uphill battle, for black conservatives fighting this sheep mentality that tells blacks that there are only a few ways for one to be in this world.

    Which is why you have Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Will I AM, and Chris Bosh saying that Programming is Cool, or that learning & getting a great education is just as awesome an avenue for Blacks as Athletics & Music.

    You would think it would be enough for most young black males to simply see Steve Jobs succeed, a Syrian-American, and say: “you know, I know I’m not that guy’s skin color, but I want to be him anyways.” Well, apparently, that doesn’t happen often enough, & much of that has to do with the elevation of race, as an issue, and the sole impediment keeping blacks from succeeding. Just like it takes Lebron James putting on glasses & promoting the Khan Academy to help defeat the stigma that being smart is acting white, so too, unfortunately, will it take blacks identifying an alternative political affiliation, to change black perceptions about conservatism. Blacks are largely to blame, and Whites are largely to blame. Black insularity, and the bigotry of low expectations from White Liberals, to be specific. Staying with your own kind is easy, and that can be said about the Chinese, the Jews, Hispanics, and every immigrant group. But that Blacks tend to prefer only living amongst other Blacks is not healthy for Blacks, and not healthy for non-Blacks. In every case, including White America, where one does not venture to live, work, or play around those different from themsevles, and only live with their own kind, it tends to create a self-imposed ghetto, intellectually, academically, economically, and culturally. So this isn’t a Black-Only issue, but it certainly is an issue, and one that has to be addressed in black life.

    “Black conservative” may be useful vis-a-vis other blacks, to signify a movement on their part to evangelize conservative principles to the black community, but their “black-ness” in no way enters their value system, or their affirmation of Liberty, Life, E Pluribus Unim, In God We Trust, etc. It’s just a title, it has no purpose beyond being a tool for evangelizing to a stubborn insular group, and it isn’t “race-baiting” in the sense that the term is used to point out Leftwing abuse of the term. Some day, however, there will be more intellectual diversity in black life to render the term Black Conservative unnecessary. But until then, it shall remain a calling card, a signifier, in black life, that an alternative exists:

    1.) One that provides greater upward mobility for you and your family, and makes you the captain of your ship, not some bureaucrats

    2.) Puts the next generation of Blacks in greater footing economically, educationally, & socially, and,

    3.) Puts the country on better footing all together, as the Black Vote will no longer be guaranteed to the Democrats, and both parties will actually have to work to prove they are worthy of your support.

    That is my rant for the day, thank you, God bless, and now I have to do my math homework.

  • MarketAndChurch

    Calling oneself a black conservative is unfortunately necessary, because of the intellectual insularity that has pervaded much of black life. It’s an uphill battle, for black conservatives fighting this sheep mentality that tells blacks that there are only a few ways for one to be in this world.

    Which is why you have Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Will I AM, and Chris Bosh saying that Programming is Cool, or that learning & getting a great education is just as awesome an avenue for Blacks as Athletics & Music.

    You would think it would be enough for most young black males to simply see Steve Jobs succeed, a Syrian-American, and say: “you know, I know I’m not that guy’s skin color, but I want to be him anyways.” Well, apparently, that doesn’t happen often enough, & much of that has to do with the elevation of race, as an issue, and the sole impediment keeping blacks from succeeding. Just like it takes Lebron James putting on glasses & promoting the Khan Academy to help defeat the stigma that being smart is acting white, so too, unfortunately, will it take blacks identifying an alternative political affiliation, to change black perceptions about conservatism.

    Blacks are largely to blame, and Whites are largely to blame. Black insularity, and the bigotry of low expectations from White Liberals, to be specific. Staying with your own kind is easy, and that can be said about the Chinese, the Jews, Hispanics, and every immigrant group. But that Blacks tend to prefer only living amongst other Blacks is not healthy for Blacks, and not healthy for non-Blacks. In every case, including White America, where one does not venture to live, work, or play around those different from themsevles, and only live with their own kind, it tends to create a self-imposed ghetto, intellectually, academically, economically, and culturally. So this isn’t a Black-Only issue, but it certainly is an issue, and one that has to be addressed in black life.

    “Black conservative” may be useful vis-a-vis other blacks, to signify a movement on their part to evangelize conservative principles to the black community, but their “black-ness” in no way enters their value system, or their affirmation of Liberty, Life, E Pluribus Unim, In God We Trust, etc. It’s just a title, it has no purpose beyond being a tool for evangelizing to a stubborn insular group, and it isn’t “race-baiting” in the sense that the term is used to point out Leftwing abuse of the term. Some day, however, there will be more intellectual diversity in black life to render the term Black Conservative unnecessary. But until then, it shall remain a calling card, a signifier, in black life, that an alternative exists:

    1.) One that provides greater upward mobility for you and your family, and makes you the captain of your ship, not some bureaucrats

    2.) Puts the next generation of Blacks in greater footing economically, educationally, & socially, and,

    3.) Puts the country on better footing all together, as the Black Vote will no longer be guaranteed to the Democrats, and both parties will actually have to work to prove they are worthy of your support.

    That is my rant for the day, thank you, God bless, and now I have to do my math homework. Thanks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/steve.fair.3139 Steve Fair

      It is racist attitudes like yours which are the reason that blacks reject political conservatism.

      • MarketAndChurch

        It is your dismissal of my arguments, not with your own intellectual arguments, but by dismissing my humanity with an epithet like “racist,” that makes it very difficult for Black conservatives to take your side seriously.

        Tell me, what in there do you find racist?

        It’s fine if you don’t want to compete in the realm of ideas, Liberals never have, and never will.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jennifer.harken Jennifer Jacobs Harken

        How was that racist?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jennifer.harken Jennifer Jacobs Harken

        I think he is saying it sucks to have to be referred to as a “black” conservative as opposed to simply conservative.

        • MarketAndChurch

          Thank you Jennifer! The closer I inch towards my 30′s, the more I appreciate clarity, and people who have it.

          -M&C

    • GeneralSpecific

      Very well stated. A worthwhile rant, if ever there was one.

      • MarketAndChurch

        I don’t know if you meant this as sarcasm, as most people tend to be with my rants lol, but I’ll take it as a compliment. Thanks for reading it.

        • GeneralSpecific

          Completely sincere:) Thank you for taking the time to fire back at the zombies with such accuracy and substance.

    • truevoice4real

      When the GOP STOPS THE RACISM they will have proven that they are worthy of getting Black votes…..try that for a change and see what happens….STOP THE RACISM….in case you don’t understand it the first time

      • MarketAndChurch

        Stop with the ideological cliches that do the thinking for you.

        I do welcome you to make a case for this racism you see within the GOP, and I would love nothing more then to help you stop it.

        • truevoice4real

          Please …you need to stop dreaming about the good ole days of Abe Lincoln when you were so proud to be called a “free knee-grow”..with all the rights of a second class citizen and all the pride of a hound dog…I merely state facts and the racism in the GOP is clear as day for those that do not look for excuses to defend racism..The voter suppression drive that republicans HAVE ADMITTED is one fact that you have either overlooked or in good knee-grow standing gave the “massa we sick” response to any truth that deals with the racist GOP…By the way , do you know these people..??

          Shaun Winkler , James Russell , Loy Mauch , Harry Berram , John Abarr , Billy Roper , Harriet Paletti , Brian Culpepper , are just a few racist in the GOP that have run for office as openly white supremacist..

          Now why should any Black person vote for a party that supports white supremacists…???..

          Martin Luther King, Jr. in his
          autobiography:

          “The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction,
          and extremism.”

          That was his description of the 1964 Republican National Convention

          I don’t have to make a case for the intense racism in the GOP….The GOP does that all by themselves…Now I notice that you didn’t address any of the facts I posted…That’s cool , because that typical of conservatives , you can’t deal with facts and the truth but like I said many times ….you get that behavior honestly….

          “Fact are stupid things”….

          Ronald “I support Apartheid” Reagan…..

          Now since you didn’t understand it the first time….

          STOP THE RACISM….

          • GeneralSpecific

            Here is one would-be Grandmaster Klansman named Robert A. Byrd in an historically accurate light. Byrd joined the Klan at the ripe young age of 24 — hardly a young’un by
            today’s standards, much less those of 1944, when Byrd refused to join
            the military because he might have to serve alongside “race mongrels, a
            throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds,” according to a
            letter Byrd wrote to Sen. Theodore Bilbo at the height of World War II.**This is a man your party of choice refused to condemn for his racism. They eulogized this ass for turning away from his past… If your primary concern is racism, you might want to learn how to use a computer. Everyone but you and the democrats have moved on.

          • truevoice4real

            What the hell are you talking about it…??..The GOP is practicing intense racism RIGHT NOW…And do you know who these people are that I posted…Check them out and get back to me….

          • GeneralSpecific

            If you can’t see what the hell I’m talking about then you are blind. And screaming RACISM again and again doesn’t make it so. You are clearly incapable of seeing beyond skin color, and that is what makes you a racist. You may waste your time on tired old tropes if you like; we’ve moved on.

          • truevoice4real

            Listen here Adolf…Ignoring racism will not make it go away..I merely state facts and since you can’t dispute those facts then that’s a personal problem…

            Now let’s try this again

            I merely state facts and the racism in the GOP is clear as day for those that do not look for excuses to defend racism..The voter suppression drive that republicans HAVE ADMITTED is one fact that you have either overlooked or in good knee-grow standing gave the “massa we sick” response to any truth that deals with the racist GOP…By the way , do you know these people..??

            Shaun Winkler , James Russell , Loy Mauch , Harry Berram , John Abarr , Billy Roper , Harriet Paletti , Brian Culpepper , are just a few racist in the GOP that have run for office as openly white supremacist..

            Now why should any Black person vote for a party that supports white supremacists…???..

  • http://www.facebook.com/phillip.cleary.14 Phillip Cleary

    It takes a lot of guts to stand up for what you believe in. I’m sure you have paid a price for those beliefs and I’m sure the price is worth it.

    • truevoice4real

      …What beliefs…..maybe MLK can help you….

      Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote in his
      autobiography:

      “The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction,
      and extremism.”

      That was his description of the 1964 Republican National Convention. He also
      referred to the Republican convention as “the frenzied wedding at the Cow
      Palace of the KKK with the radical right.”

      Like Rand Paul said…”the republican is the same as it’s always been”…

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.fair.3139 Steve Fair

    What is it about black conservatives to fear? You have no power, no constituency and not even respect from your fellow conservatives. You don’t bring any black support to the GOP and you can’t get white Republicans to support you. You are just useful idiots and lost slaves begging for crumbs from the slavemaster’s table.

    • MarketAndChurch

      They fear black conservatives, because I outlined in my arguments that you dismissed as racist, that black life was very insular for a very long time, and made it exceedingly difficult for them to embrace anything outside of it, lest they be called “acting-white.” The damage done by that term is so deep, and has pervaded so much of the youth’s zeitgeist, that we need Lebron James, Will I AM, and many other figures promoting campaigns that suggest that perhaps acting smart is not acting white. Learning how to read and write, do mathematics and physics, and program software, are not ways of being “white.”

      Black Conservatism opens up Black life in other ways that tells Blacks who attend church, and are conservative, that there is no home for you on the Democratic party, and that one can be black, and politically conservative.

      • truevoice4real

        There are many , many more successful Black democrats than Black conservsatives…You “useful idiots” can’t even get more than two tokens iseless knee-grows elected to congress…And you knee-grows can’t even summon the courage to fight for Black people…ala getting the racist GOP to stop their voter suppression drive..Let’s see Black conservatives actually do something other then running their mouths about how wonderful the racist GOP is , then you might get some respect on the Black community…Also , WHEN A BLACK CONSERVATVE CAN WIN IN A BLACK DISTRICT…Then and only then will liberals have something to be afraid…But util that mafical day come Black conservatives are nothing but a hood ornament on a rednecks pick up truck…
        By the way , you useless idiots can save all the whining about the need for voter IDs..The racist GOP already admitted their use of voter suppression so you are spared another act of going above and beyond the call of a knee-grow…

        • GeneralSpecific

          I’ll bank my life on one black conservative against 10 so-called successful democrats of any color. When a black conservative wins in a black district it will be the beginning of the end of the ideological enslavement of blacks to the pandering liberal elites, who pit whites against blacks, rich against poor, religious against secular, and any other divisive issue in order to distract people from the hollowness of their self-serving policies. The racist party is either A. The one that says you are too damned stupid to compete with other races on an even playing field, so you’d better vote for them to get a leg up, or B. The one who offers an even playing field even though it knows blacks are going to vote 95% on the basis of race. One other thing, if you have any respect for “your” community, I hope you’ll advocate for the right of your community to bear arms in their own defense. It is just another racist feather in the cap of the democrats that they have denied those in the most vulnerable circumstances from defending themselves with firearms. Gun control was originally enacted to disarm blacks, and it is still doing so, That is the racist legacy of democrats, whose jackass you continue to court. So, take your misplaced grievances and shove em up the nearest democrat’s ass, because that’s where they were conceived.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jennifer.harken Jennifer Jacobs Harken

      The fear is because white liberals disguise their racism by looking down their nose at blacks and act like they want to help the poor blacks that are held down by the man. It’s just a way of elevating themselves.

    • http://twitter.com/Black_N_Prepper BerniMac

      “useful idiots” “lost slaves” you are one dumb individual! That …. Never mind continue your pathological ideology and soon you will awaken. Probably not until it’s to late but none the less awake. There are.More Black conservatives around than you want to believe WE just don’t Run off at the MOUTH like the Left we’re to damn busy taking care of our children, working, paying bills not sitting on the corner with our hands out to UNCLE sam(bo)

    • truevoice4real

      I agree Steve….

  • Patti

    I know it has been a month since this Steve Fair posted his racial hatred towards our fellow Conservatives. I will say, as an educated “white professional woman” I am excited to there are so many people of the different ethnicity’s speaking out and supporting their conservative beliefs. It is going to take everyone to make this country great again of every race, and creed.

    Mr. Fair, to call a black person a “useful idiot” “lost slaves” and “lost slaves begging for crumbs from the slavemaster’s table” is horribly racist!!!! And you are a black man, SHAME ON YOU!. Mr. Fair must not respect himself or anyone else for that matter.

  • truevoice4real

    Black conservatives have no power in the country and no respect in thier own community…therefore there are not only useless but very expendable..The only fear is that one day white conservatives will realize they gave no use for Black conservatives…liberals don’t fear that but Black conservatives do….