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sick babiesSay it ain’t so, but there is another “gotcha” in ObamaCare.

It appears that ObamaCare doesn’t cover babies under two years old.

“I gave you the chance to kill the little burden, now didn’t I?” – ObamaCare

ObamaCare has run the numbers, and guess what…little people can cost as much as old people. Yes, especially with all the potential crackhead mothers who might want to take a stab at child neglect.

Reported by the NY Post:

When Kelly called a representative, he was told his daughter had to be 2 before she could be covered under a family plan. He would have to buy a separate plan for her, at monthly premiums that ranged between $117.21 and $369.31. The cost would be on top of a family plan with premiums ranging from $810.84 to $2,554.71 a month.

ObamaCare knows what those mean insurance companies know: Kids cost more…a LOT more!

According to a report from the Health Care Cost Institute, cited in Medical News Today:

In 2010, per capita spending on children’s health care increased to $2,123, which is an 18.6% increase from 2007, with spending on health care for infants and toddlers being noted as disproportionately high. Even though children below the age of 3 made up 17% of the covered child population, they cost the government 31.4% of the total amount for children’s health care, with a per capita spending reaching $3,896 in 2010.

Death panels, no coverage for tots, and a government-run program that can arbitrarily change the rules. Sure, that’s just what Americans wanted in health care.

 
 
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  • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

    Just as I thought: a complete and utter LIE headline with nothing of substance to back it up. Just about like every other ‘headline’ on this site. Maybe this is the reason no one takes ‘The Black Sphere’ seriously?

    • Mtr Mann

      Follow the link to the story in the New York Post, it was true for this particular family in this one instance.

      • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

        I did. And the family didn’t even seek health insurance from healthcare.gov, they sought healthcare from an open market, which makes it even more dishonest trying to say it’s ‘obamacare’. The right is now calling any negative experience with ANY insurance company a result of Obamacare when the FACT is that one of the things Obamacare ensures is that everyone is covered. So, this ‘particular family’ in this ‘one instance’ wasn’t using the affordable care site at all. So, it’s not true in the least. It’s just all Republicans can come up with to vilify healthcare for EVERY American. And the article even states in the end that they DID get insurance for the entire family, making it nothing but a bs story to begin with.

        • Lara (LAIR-A)

          All health insurance policies, wherever they’re purchased, must now meet Obamacare requirements for coverage … otherwise they’re illegal. So, YES, it is because of Obamacare that the family was told that.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Wrong LIAR-A, if they weren’t able to get healthcare for their child, the article may have a ring of truth to it, but under Obamacare, they WERE able to find coverage, which really puts the debate to an END and makes it seem exactly as it is which is more incessant whining from Conservatives.

          • Lara (LAIR-A)

            I never said they couldn’t get coverage for their infant. You CAN get coverage, but you have to pay a crap ton more on top of what you pay already for yourself & other family members. Why are babies required to be covered separately under the new rules? And what about parents who can’t afford the extra cost? What do they do? Go without? Then what’s the point … if the goal of Obamacare is to cover everyone?

            You also have to remember, there are lots more who are losing their coverage than who are getting covered for the first time. So it’s actually going to end up being worse than it was to begin with.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            You just don’t understand the qualification process. EVERYONE qualifies, and even if you make NOTHING or have NO INCOME you still have the choice of State-funded healthcare that is free. All they would have to do is qualify for free healthcare under the healthcare.gov site, though the site automatically calculates based on your salary and offers several healthcare options to choose from, if you don’t like them, you can always choose fed/state funded healthcare because luckily, no hospital can turn you away for care thanks to Obama’s new laws and no one can be turned down because of lack of money or pre-existing conditions,
            So, all I’m saying is that they aren’t looking at ALL the options because if they had, they would have found one that is affordable. But then I wouldn’t expect such whining from Conservatives because the average Conservative would tell you that if you can’t afford health care for your children, then you shouldn’t be having children that you can’t afford and they would tell you ‘too bad’.
            So, don’t try to make Obamacare sound like the same healthcare that Conservatives hope for which is ‘if you can’t afford it, too f’ing bad.’

          • Lara (LAIR-A)

            Not everyone qualifies for Medicaid or subsidies. And Medicaid ain’t all that. It’s terribly difficult to find doctors and hospitals that take it. I know … I’m currently on it because I got laid off in 2011 and was unable to find another job due to the sucky economy. I HATE IT. I want off of it but I’m stuck with it for now.

            I recently had advanced breast cancer so I needed health care. Thankfully, my oncologist is continuing to see me although I can’t pay him right now. The closest PCP and hospital to me that takes Medicaid are an hour away. My county hospital — which is 20 minutes away — doesn’t take it. On the exchange, only BCBS and a local company formed by area doctors are offering plans in my county. A grand total of TWO. Not much choice. And the hospital and local doctors won’t take BCBS, only the local company plan. So … unless you have coverage through that company, you’re screwed. You have precisely ONE choice. You could live five minutes from the hospital but not be able to use it if you have BCBS through your employer or Medicaid. And I don’t live out in the middle of nowhere.

            “If you can’t afford it, too f’ing bad” is an apt description of Obamacare. That’s what it’s turning into. Those who can pay totally out of pocket will get better care with the doctor of their choice. Those who can’t will get what the government says they can have.

            Personally, I don’t want the government’s nose all up into my health care. That’s between me and my doctor, not me and a government bureaucrat.

          • Missy Fitch

            Well said and I completely agree.

          • Lara (LAIR-A)

            Thanks, Missy.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            You’re simply WRONG, and refusing to see that what the govt. offers is a thousand times better than what an insurance company would offer (of course they would simply DENY you any coverage at all, which they can’t get away with now. So, you’re just whining over spilled milk and thinking that these few rare instances are the norm and they simply AREN’T.

          • Missy Fitch

            NO it is you that are wrong. Clearly you have NO experience in the real world and believe what ever garbage Obama happens to be selling. Or did you forget his promise, “If you like your plan, You can keep it”

          • Lara (LAIR-A)

            The government NEVER offers anything better than the private sector.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Really?? The government runs the military and I haven’t heard too many conservatives whining about it, though I’m sure they do, maybe I’m just naive. But the military has been around for a long time and is generally accepted by most even though it is run by the government. So is medicare and our older folks have relied on it for generations and had pretty good results. Every day I see ads for all the free things you get with medicare, are you saying we should allow B.P. and Halliburton to run the military and medicare?

          • Missy Fitch

            Ok with that statment I am done with you. You know absloutly NOTHING. You really think Medicare is good and the elderly are doing wonderfully with it? I think you live under a rock and are gobbling up what ever obama and his cronies throw your way. Your statment about Medicare is ignorant and borders on completly delusional. As someone that ACTUALLY works in the health care industry I am astounted at your level of ignorance.

          • Phil Smith

            People that buy into this ACA dog and pony show are not intelligent to even be considered baboons in my book. There is no reasoning with these socialist primates that appear to be human. The only thing they understand is “gimme,gimme”, and “I’ll take fries with that”. And half the time they screw that up. Keep your powder dry.

          • Missy Fitch

            Yeah, the soldiers love their pay and the fact that the government has slashed their benifits… Are you really this ignorant?

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Actually, it’s BENEFITS, not “benifits”. And the biggest slashes to military benefits were during the Bush administrations. But I guess that’s too far back for you to remember, just like the state of RUIN our country was in when Bush turned it over to Obama — in the worst shape since the great depression. How quickly conservatards forget. I liken it to the holocaust deniers, who are all right wing extremists, btw.

          • delahaya

            Who pays for all that “free”? Are you really that stupid Bob?

          • Eileen Wright

            We were told it will be deficit neutral. There are subsidies and hundreds of millions of dollars of expenses to run ACA. Perhaps the left will also change the defintion of “neutral.”

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            The taxpayer of course, and as a taxpayer, I’m happy to pay a little bit more so that everyone has coverage. Aren’t you? If you aren’t, perhaps you should move to Iraq or Afghanistan and see how the healthcare system is there. Think of all the money you’ll save…lol

          • Missy Fitch

            No, I am not inclined to pay for your health ins. Pay it yourself. I work hard for my money and don’t think it greedy to keep what I earn and be able to decide how it should be spent.

          • sec818

            Yes they can be turned down for pre-existing conditions on Obamacare. Talked with a man yesterday who signed his family up, then 2 weeks later got an email saying since his wife had a pre-existing condition she would NOT be covered.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Care to produce evidence for this claim? Didn’t think so. The healthcare.gov site hasn’t even been working for 2 weeks. So, I caught you in a lie, which isn’t surprising.

          • sec818

            Did I say he signed up in the past 2 weeks??? No. You mean you don’t believe the Obama administration that hundreds of THOUSANDS of people have enrolled? Funny, you’re trying to use the failure of the website to defend it, LOL

          • Missy Fitch

            Not true. I do not qualify for any assistance in paying for obamacare due to making to LITTLE. I live in SC, so should be covered under the new medicare standards but since that is state run and SC has opted NOT to expand Medicare, I do not qualify for that either. So in fact I can not get assistance paying for this health care even though I only make 12000 a year. My monthly ins would be 200 a month and the deductable a whopping 5000… Tell me, How can I afford this? Also I have no kids, If I did I would actually be able to get goverment help. So in my case is is “if you can’t afford it, to frickin bad.”

            I think you speak of things you know nothing about in an attempt to justify your own uninformed and biased opinion.

            I also happen to agree, If you can’t afford to support your children and give them health care you should not be having them. Why should everyone else be responsible for your bills?

          • ScottyPotty

            Bob, I implore you… go educate yourself. It will set you free from the shackles that liberalism has bound you with.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Jesus was one of the most famous Liberals, so I guess you’re calling him stupid!

          • buckofama2010

            You SERIOUSLY need to get a Bible and READ it. He is NO liberal. satan is however

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            I’ve read the Bible several times cover the cover, which is how I know that Jesus was a PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL. And isn’t it always the case that those who refer to themselves as ‘christians’ are always the same folks who know the least about the bible.

          • Fay Brown Dalton

            I can’t afford what they say i have to pay, so i will be without insurance and pay the fine as well as all of my medical coverage myself. for what they want a month i can pay a lot of medical bills with that amount

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            I’m gonna play the devil’s advocate and tell you that if you can’t afford to pay for your child’s healthcare, maybe you should either get a better paying job or stop having children.

        • delahaya

          Bob, you are a total troll moron. Millions have lost coverage. Those that can afford it have to buy back at prices thousands of dollars higher per year. They have no choice. Why do you hate your fellow citizens so much you support. Oh, that’s right YOU will get subsidized so screw everyone else huh?

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            HORSE CRAP. No one has ‘lost’ insurance. What has happened is they’ve just been given new plans to choose. NO ONE has lost their healthcare, unless they refuse it themselves. Remember, EVERYONE gets covered no matter what your income.

          • Missy Fitch

            YES THEY HAVE! My mother has.

            As I posted in a previous post…

            my parents had a ins policy that they liked and the premium was 500 a month with a 2000 deductable. (my mother is a cancer survivor) and 2 weeks ago they were notified that their policy would be canceled because it didn’t meet obama care standards. (no maturnity coverage) My mother is 59 years old. Of course she doesn’t need that. Now thanks to obamacare a plan for them will be 1500 a month with an 12000 dollar deductable. My dad is retired and my mother doesn’t work… They can’t afford this. So they are taking the fine and not gonna get health ins.

            So before you tell me that obamacare is better, remember my mother! She will be with out ins because obamacare requires something that she cant possibly need and the precious “they can’t turn you down” rule doesn’t mean they can’t charge you so much that you can’t acutally afford the insurance that would cover your previous condition!

        • buckofama2010

          Only an ABSOLUTE IDIOT would sign up for ovomitcare. Extremely high costs and deductibles, ZERO website security of private information. You have to select something without knowing the cost. If you opt out you are fined and told the IRS will take it out of your personal accounts and taxes. They do not even have the link set up to tell the healthcare providers who has what coverage like NORMAL insurance nor do they have an interface with insurers so they don’t know how much to pay which company. Then they say they will base it on the honor system. Only an ABSOLUTE brainless IDIOT would sign up for this or be promoting it. But leftists only see freebies, being parasites and all…nothing but human gimme pigs. They do not work so they have no idea how business works or a REAL website. Said website cost over $600 MILLION from a FOREIGN company that has failed at numerous other projects. THAT company got the contract because it is owned by moochelle ovomit’s college pal. And you can say with a straight face that this is good for ANYONE? I absolutely LOVE the liberals whining now..the ones who voted for ovomit and thought this was great. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

    • buckofama2010

      RACIST SCUM

  • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

    Also interesting to see that there is no mention of what the ‘death panels’ are, which is merely an invented phrase by Republicans who hate seeing a black president. It’s a racist thing.

    • jonjon_yo

      oh the death panels are real. of course they don’t call them death panels, but they are in there to control end of life costs.

      • http://mysteresmoonbatslayerclub.blogspot.com/ mystere

        Bobbo will never understand what you’re telling him.

    • Missy Fitch

      Death panels is something that has always been a part of health ins. Now the government controls the ins so they now are in control of the death panels. Anyone with a brain KNOWS what a death panel is. Its a group of cost adjusters that you don’t know, looking at your personal health information and at the cost of treating you and deciding whether the cost of treating you compared to the pontential income you will bring them if you are sucessufully treated will be enough to warrent that treatment. If you cost too much to treat then, sorry, that treatment is denied. Anyone who has ever had health ins that they actually have paid for knows this…

      • DL Sly

        The phrase “racist” is both a self-identifying and completely moronic statement.

      • Fay Brown Dalton

        not true, my husband was treated for cancer, we had private Blue Cross Blue Shield and they knew from the start he would not live more then 5 years!

        • Missy Fitch

          That is because Blue Cross, Blue Shield is a very good ins. Try that with one of these obama care Bronze packages. Just because you had a good experience doesn’t mean what I said was any less truthful. My aunt was denied treatment for her illness because she was “too old” and the treatment was too costly.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Thank you Missy Fitch, for describing how the insurance companies ran before Obamacare. Many insurance companies also DROPPED patients who had cancer or other terminal instances. At least they have more of a chance now that it is ILLEGAL for insurance companies to do that.

          • Missy Fitch

            The only difference is now its the bloated and inefficent government making those decisions… So why did we need Obamacare? Ins is now more unaffordable than ever. And yeah, you can get those treatments, just as soon as you cough of the huge deductable. On most plans its in the 10 thousand dollar range. You have to rack up that kind of bill before the ins will even kick in. How is this affordable?

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            You’re just way off, we still don’t really know how Obamacare is going to work because it’s so new, you’re just being negative because the conservative media TEACHES you to be negative towards anything from Obama. He could completely rewrite the tax code so that everyone is paying the same rates and Fox News would spin it in to some wacko conspiracy because that is what they do. It’s called ‘fear-based media’. They want to keep you in fear because fear sells. That’s why they bring out scare tactics like this article and this website, which is simply propaganda against anything that is even remotely progressive because the ONE thing the oil industry and healthcare industry wants is POWER and they lose power with Obamacare, so naturally Conservative media is going to counter against it in any feeble way they can, including making up entire stories and paying people to lie, which has been seen again and again. I”m the first to say that gov. isn’t always the answer but when it comes to healthcare it’s at least worth a try because giving the insurance companies all the power hasn’t worked and has failed miserably and Conservatives in Congress have had YEARS to build their own healthcare system and didn’t, so instead of even talking about it, they did NOTHING.

          • Missy Fitch

            I don’t listen to consertive media. I judge a thing on what I see. I don’t even have cable tv. I don’t watch the news. But I do know that my parents had a ins policy that they liked and the premium was 500 a month with a 2000 deductable. (my mother is a cancer survivor) and 2 weeks ago they were notified that their policy would be canceled because it didn’t meet obama care standards. (no maturnity coverage) My mother is 59 years old. Of course she doesn’t need that. Now thanks to obamacare a plan for them will be 1500 a month with an 12000 dollar deductable. My dad is retired and my mother doesn’t work… They can’t afford this. So they are taking the fine and not gonna get health ins.

            So before you tell me that obamacare is better, remember my mother! She will be with out ins because obamacare requires something that she cant possibly need and the precious “they can’t turn you down” rule doesn’t mean they can’t charge you so much that you can’t acutally afford the insurance that would cover your previous condition!

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            HAHA! Don’t listen to conservative media??! Then why are you replying on this thread? This site is the very definition of Conservative media, who’s only goal is to lie and make up anything to vilify or belittle Obama or any Liberal cause. And I never said Obamacare was better than what we had previous, the only thing I’ve said is that we should at least give it a couple years and see if it improves things. Conservatives want to completely suspend it before the laws even go in to effect.

          • DAVE M

            may be bob the grunt should read the aca before he opens his crap hole again. i have read it and it is a p.o.s just like its founder your a moron and talk tv talkyou dont even know whats in it how can you talk about it . read it then come back.
            btw bob get a job and you wont think its good any more cause you will be paying others bill suck mouth

          • buckofama2010

            Funny, my wife has been battling cancer off and on 10 years now and BC/BS has not even mentioned dropping us and they pay EVERY BILL and our premiums have not gone up. ovomitcare would price this coverage to be more than my income as is actually happening all over the country..BTW, have YOU signed up yet? Come back and tell us the TRUTH about ovomitcare once you have signed up…oh, and lay off msnbc, maybe try watching real news, not an ovomit mouthpiece

      • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

        Well, of course they do, why should it be any different under Obamacare? Would you expect more taxes to be taken from your paycheck to keep critically ill patients alive for a few more months? Of course not! Or, maybe you’re a Liberal and would rather see them kept alive indefinitely paid for with YOUR tax dollars? Which is it?

        • Missy Fitch

          No, I am against someone OTHER than my family or my doctor or myself involved in my medical decisions. What I think about another persons health care is irrelevent. I have no business even KNOWING it.

          And your post admits that you belive there are death panels…

          As for your point about my tax dollars… I don’t believe my tax dollars should be taken for anyones medical expenses.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            LOL — sorry Missy, you can’t have it both ways. If you don’t believe taxes should pay for any part of your healthcare, then you should be more than willing to pay anything your insurance company doesn’t cover out of pocket whether you can afford it or not — THAT is the old system which was broken. Maybe you could train your brain to think of taxes the same way you think of your insurance premiums, because that is essentially what they’ve become. So either be willing to pay on your own out of pocket, or be prepared to pay a high premium, because money and healthcare don’t fall like mana from the Heavens, though I’m sure you thought Obamacare would somehow make that happen.
            I also would be very willing to hear the way you think it should be run. Do you think the POOR are going to pay for your healthcare? Or, do you just think that hospitals should operate for free?
            If we follow typical Conservative theory, healthcare should be privatized and everyone should be willing to pay for their own healthcare out of pocket, and if you can’t afford it, you should rely on a church or faith-based institution to make you well, but I am interested in your own theory.

          • Missy Fitch

            Thats the difference between you and I. I AM willing to pay for my own health care. I don’t think other people should pay for it. My health and well being is MY RESPONSIBILITY. Just as yours heath and well being is YOUR responsibility.

            What I wanted was for the cost of the ACTUAL health care to be taken in hand and something done about that. There is no reason in the world for simple supplies to cost more in a hospital than they do in a dr’s office. When I broke my leg several years ago (treatment for which I paid for myself) the same materials in the hospital were 3 times more expensive than in my regular doctors office. It was the same stuff.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            LOL. Good luck with paying for your hospital bills on your own. You’re lucky you’re wealthy enough to afford it. I guess you know that you’re free to pay out of pocket under Obamacare, in fact I would imagine there’s an extra incentive to do just that.

          • Missy Fitch

            Also the fact that you actually stated that you think I believe obama can make mana fall from heaven indicated that you haven’t even read my posts. Let me be clear. I don’t think Obama could run a lemonade stand! He is in no way fit to run a country wide health care ins system. And the fact that no one can even navigate a simple website only strengthens my opinion. They have had THREE YEARS and 300 million dollars and they can’t even get the website work… yeah, they will be real great running the whole show….

            They could have take that 300+ million and given every single citizen a million dollars. There. problem solved. Heath care money for everyone.

          • buckofama2010

            I do NOT want ANYONE other than myself paying my bills and certainly not taxpayers. Healthcare is NOT a right. I am sick of parasites taking money from hard working Americans only to get head to toe tattoos, piercings, do drugs and alcohol, smoke, have multiple partners and have a better car, cell phone, etc than those of us who have our money stolen from us. It is high time we add chlorine to the shallow end of the gene pool.

    • carolina mama

      The term “death panels” is a reference to the provisions in Obamacare that allow someone other than the patient and/or physician to make the call on hastening a patient’s death. It will most likely come into play in the quality of life decision making matrix that government will mandate that doctors use to determine a patient’s treatment options.

    • Wayne Facca

      Playing the race card again. Sickening, moronic thing to do. Grow up.

    • ConspiracyOfFools

      Stop talking foolish, everyone’s health care, including “death panels
      ” has nothing to do with having a half-black president. If you can think of a shorter way to say that others, not the patient, the patient’s physician, not the patient’s relatives will be in control on whether to provide treatment or pull the plug, then say so, a shorter term than death panels can be used just as well.

    • buckofama2010

      Played your only card eh lefty? It’s sad but that term has ABSOLUTELY NO MEANING anymore thanks to dumbasses like you who overuse and abuse the word. We can tell when a leftist can’t win an argument because he throws that word out. Maybe come back when you can play with a full deck? You have not provided a single FACT, just “feelings” and when presented with facts, you throw out the word racist. That, BTW, makes YOU a RACIST

      • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

        So I guess to you a video of tea partiers calling Obama the n-word isn’t evidence? Yeah — shows how IRRATIONAL your brain works. I’ve got thousands of examples of conservative racism, this site is one of them.

    • http://mysteresmoonbatslayerclub.blogspot.com/ mystere

      Bobbo plays the liberal race card!

      • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

        *yawn*

  • China Schmitz

    the missing part of this article is the ending of the report by NY POST:

    “Unwilling to put his daughter on a separate policy, Kelly found a family plan in the private marketplace for about $1,250 a month.

    It was only after The Post called the state Health Department that Kelly said he got a call from a department representative telling him it had all been a mistake, and the baby could be covered after all under a family plan.

    The department would not comment on the specifics of Kelly’s situation or why it told the family three times that the baby wasn’t covered. It would only say, “All children in the family are covered under a family policy. A separate policy is not needed for the 1 1/2 year old child.”

    Please stop sharing partial articles… its as bad as pulling a scripture from the Bible out of context…. here is the link to the article this guy is using:

    http://nypost.com/2013/12/01/baby-not-covered-under-obamacare-family-plan/

    • Missy Fitch

      Upon thinking about it your post goes a long way in proving how bad obamacare really is… He infact DIDN’T get coverage under obamacare and had to go to the PRIVATE Marketplace. He was told THREE times by the STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT that his child wasn’t covered. It wasn’t until the PRESS contacted the Health Department that they changed their answer. If the Post hadn’t got involved the Health Department would have still been telling this man that his baby wasn’t covered. Yet again showing how stupid, ineffectual and useless the government is at running things.

      • Rex_Dart

        He was told THREE times that his fourth child wasn’t covered because he only listed THREE children on the application for a family plan when he actually had FOUR children! If you list THREE children on an application, and then you bring up a FOURTH, do you honestly think the insurance company would just let it slide? Of course not! Please stop being intensely and willfully ignorant. This idiot apparently forgot how many children he had and then blamed the system for his mistake, all while riding it as a boldfaced lie for all of 15 minutes before he was found out to be a fraud (not to mention a horrible father).

  • http://lovesongs4joanna.wordpress.com/ James McPherson
  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    From the very beginning of the TRAIN WRECK…..I have called it by the Correct Name……DEATH CARE….

    • athrillofhope

      I wouldn’t be that nice and use the word “care”. ObamaCare = DEATH PLANNING & MANAGEMENT.

  • Koissi Riley Yotcho Adjorlolo
  • ssnbbr

    This is totally false. When are you people going to start checking facts? You really think that if this was true, people would have been screaming about it from day one? The story came about from a man who tried to sign up his baby, but FORGOT to list the child as a family member on the application. Once the error was corrected, the application went ahead without problems. And the baby is covered. Get over it. the ACA is the law.

    • DL Sly

      So was slavery.

      • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

        Would it be a low blow to note that Democrats supported both?

        • DL Sly

          No, that would be something most people call the truth. Although, in the progressive’s world, “truth” in and of it’s self is a low blow, so….

        • Rex_Dart

          You mean those “Democrats” who converted to the Republican party? Have you any knowledge of history? Wait, that’s a stupid question. Of course you don’t.

          • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

            Rex, good buddy – Got anything to support that claim? Anything at all? (I mean, besides your calm faith that you are always right?)

            Rex, sweetie, that ‘they all converted’ nonsense is getting old. Those racist Democrats to stayed true blue racist Democrats until they day they died. We all know those Demo’s stayed true blue Demo’s until the day they died. Heck, folks like Bull Connor, Lester Maddox, Robert Byrd, and the like that are probably still voting the straight Demo ticket.

        • calling all toasters

          You mean those white, Southern, conservative Democrats? They are the ones who supported slavery, and their ideological (and actual) descendants are all Republicans now.

          • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

            riigghhttt, toaster

            Keep telling yourself that, you happy little racist.

            It takes a special view of the world to believe that, after fighting against Democratic support of slavery, Jim Crow laws, and segregation, Republicans finally won, and then said: “Heck, let’s join the racists we’ve been fighting for 150 years, for no reason at all”

            Sounds like something out of an old Futurama episode.

    • Linda Hall Adair

      Actually, he tried to get it fixed and got passed around like a football. It took him contacting the media for him to get any action on it.

      • ssnbbr

        Guess you’ve never been “passed around like a football” with the phone company, or your cable provider, or your car insurance company? Yep, the ACA isn’t perfect. The fact is, ACA DOES cover babies and this man got his family covered after the mistake that HE made was discovered and corrected.

        • MeanGranny

          Keep drinking the kool-aid, honey. No matter what this misbegotten law does, it’s ok with you.

        • Missy Fitch

          I find it interesting that you so staunchly support Obamacare. The fact the you call it ACA shows you are a democrat. they called it Obamacare until it blew up. Now its ACA. I have indeed been put through the mill when it came to Car ins. Then I went to a different company that appreciates my business. Its hard to do that with the STATE Health department. The fact is, they have no reason to treat customers well. We have to buy it, and they get their money.

          Tell me, do you like that your personal information so easily gotten to by others? DO you like that felons and other criminals are processing your information? Do you like paying for abortions or conraceptives that you don’t want or need? Do you even have a job? If so, do you have enough in your budget to pay for your neighbors Health Ins, for illegal immagrants health ins. If you do, then you probably don’t need to sign up for obamacare to begin with. People like me, can’t afford to support everyone else, thats why my premium would be so high. I have not been to the dr in years yet my deductable would be 5000. INSANE.

          • margey sebastian

            serious lack of comprehension here as to what obamacare actually is. it’s laws regulating the INSURANCE COMPANIES that we still have to deal with. THAT IS ALL.

    • ScottyPotty

      The 2nd Amendment is the law, too. So get over it.

      • calling all toasters

        If only some conservative could read the whole thing. But it’s all of one sentence, so… unlikely.

    • Missy Fitch

      As another poster pointed out, so was slavery and the fact that women were not allowed to vote. The fact that something is a law should be MORE incentive to protest it if it is injust or unwanted by the majority.

      If you actually read the article, it is in fact NOT totally false and was totally true. The man didn’t FORGET to list the child. He was told AFTER he had signed up that the child would NOT be covered, and he was told that THREE TIMES by the health department.

      Its posts like this that show how ignorant supporters of Obamacare really are. You can’t even read a news article correctly before spouting nonsense and telling everyone else that you are right and everyone else is wrong.

      • ssnbbr

        Yeah, Missy, so you believe that BS explanation, after the headline plainly states the ACA doesn’t cover babies? This is not a “news” article — it is a blog written by some dude who picked up the story from what, Faux Noise? No fact checking by the author, or by people who buy into this piece of crap you call a “news article” — people who just blindly follow what they want to hear. You are correct in one respect, though, if you hate the law so much, win an election and repeal it so you can go back to the “good ole days” — the guy who got ACA passed won two, so good luck.

        • Missy Fitch

          No, in fact I don’t believe that Obamacare doesn’t cover babies. I am sure it does. but in this case even the health department said they didn’t. The fact that the mistake was corrected doesn’t change the fact that it happened. What I find so wrong with this is the fact that it happened at all! I am sorry but its glitches and mistakes like this that show me how bad this health care law is for the country.

          Personally I don’t get what you find so horrible about the good ole days.. we had more freedom, more jobs and more money. My grandmother lived through the Great Depression and she tells me that as bad as it was then, its WORSE now.

          As for Obamacare, the people didn’t want it when it passed and the People don’t want it now. If they did Obama wouldn’t have had to force people to buy it. I am all for health care reform but that is in no way what Obamacare is. More paitents + less doctors = worse health care…. and that doesn’t take into account having the goverment so involved in something that should only be between my doctor and myself.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Oh please! That’s like saying that if you went to a restaurant and ordered a hamburger and they mistakenly gave you steak, and then brought you back a hamburger that you still got no hamburger even after you ate it. I doubt that you can see how ridiculous your statement is, but try to follow my analogy and perhaps it will dawn on you how stupid your post is.

          • Missy Fitch

            But thats not at all what I said. Using your analogy, What happened to this man is… He want to a restruant, ordered a hamburg, the resturant told him that they didn’t have any so he goes out to another resturant to get one. Then he complains to the media that the resturant advertised hamburgers but didn’t have any for him. The resturant hears this then says oh my, this was a mistake, we DID have a hamburger and we will give you one now. But its too late cause he already got it somewhere else.

          • ssnbbr

            Oooh, Oooh, somebody made a mistake, therefore the law is bad. What kind of reasoning is that? I don’t believe a word of this article, or the guy who claims he was led astray by the health department, but apparently you still do. There’s no arguing with someone who will not or cannot do even a modicum of research on your own about the subject. Where have you have been the last decade?? — health care reform was among the public’s top 5 concerns before the 2008 election. The problem included the fact that millions of citizens were uninsured, health care costs were increasing faster than inflation and wages, and more of those costs were being passed on from employers to employees. Obama ran on health care reform in 2008 and won.Congress addressed the issue and put a program in place. It’s not perfect but it’s a good start.

            More jobs and more money in the good ole days? Yep, and the jobs went overseas, and the money has gone to the CEOs (You might want to check out the income inequity figures over the last 30+ years – since “Trickle Down” economics took effect.)

            More freedoms? you folks always throw around that word–freedom to do what? You talking the freedoms we had before and throughout the Great Depression? – that was during Prohibition (people couldn’t even drink their problems away); Freedom to work children in factories? Freedom to breath clean air or drink pure water? Freedom for black and white children to go to the same schools?

            Granny thinks the Great Recession is worse than the Great Depression. Well, has granny read anything about what exactly a depression is? The jobless rate shot to 25 percent in the Great Depression and stayed in the double digits for a decade. When the job market first collapsed in 1930, workers could not rely upon unemployment insurance, food stamps, Social Security, Medicare or other forms of government help (bet Granny now benefits
            from a couple of those programs, hmmm?). Do some reading Missy. Try reading this article about a real live researcher who compares the Recession to the
            Depression http://www.npr.org/2012/07/11/155991507/did-the-great-recession-bring-back-the-1930s

            Or not, and just keep listening to granny, stay in your own
            bubble and bitch about every damn thing in the world.

          • Missy Fitch

            Tell that to all the people who have been out of work for years. I would believe someone who has actually LIVED during that time than someone who researched it.

            As for freedom, when the president passes laws forcing people to buy a service, or when he passes a law that makes it illegal to protest his speaches, when he passes laws making it legal to spy on or imprision american citizens with out cause.. when he passes laws that gives Illegals the same rights as citizens.. then yes, we have lost our freedom.

            And since when did breathing clean air become freedom? As for child labor laws that has nothing to do with the freedom i am speaking of.

            I speak of the things I see around me. I see the consequences of all these socialist laws. perhaps you have yet to see the consequences but I have and calling me names and saying I am wrong will not change that.

          • ssnbbr

            Oh god. like I said. no arguing with anyone in a bubble. Go with granny. P.S. – the president doesn’t pass laws — Congress does, and none of the things you mention are laws that anyone has passed. And ask granny if she likes her Social Security and Medicare — perfect examples of what you define as “Socialist laws.”

          • Missy Fitch

            Tell that to obama. He has changed the ACA many times now with out congress’s approval.

            My grandmother does not like her social security or Medicare. She would have rather been able to keep her social security when she was working, have put it in the bank. As for medicare, she has no choice in the matter.

            Also your disrespect to the elderly is noted.

            Clearly you will defend obamacare no matter what is in it. You sound like Pelosi “we have to pass it to know whats in it” Its delusional and ridiculous.

          • ssnbbr

            Heh! Like MY grandmother said: You can’t fix stupid. Peace, out.

          • johnmartin

            Your granny should have put her vast wealth in the bank in October of 1929, the Great Depression that she loved so much.

          • johnmartin

            “when he passes a law making it illegal to protest his speeches.”
            You really are demented. Cause here you are protesting and not in jail YET.

          • johnmartin

            You mean your grandmother who is on Medicare don’t you. If your grandmother would rather die in the streets like in 1929, instead of making sure that young children don’t have to now she is demented. And if you believe her, you are either a fool or a liar.

        • MeanGranny

          No, actually he STOLE two elections!

          • johnmartin

            somebody told you that too and I bet they told you he was born in Kenya and wants to round up all totally white people (half white people like him are ok) and put them in concentration camps. You need Obamacare mental health bad.

      • johnmartin

        Health care is wanted by the majority. Just because you are in the minority doesn’t make it the majority. It actually shows how petty and stupid you are. The guy was a fool and so are you. He is a republican operative that lost an election and is trying to go all Joe the Plumber and needs stupid people like Sarah Palin to join in the fun. Sign up and remember not to sign up for Health Care because that would be bad if we all had Health Care like the rest of the civilized world. That would mean women wouldn’t be allowed to vote. You need Obamacare because it has mental health care.

        • Harold

          The polls show that the majority of Americans are against it stupid Libertard

          • margey sebastian

            depends on whose polls you look at. name calling is so childish and makes you sound really, really unintelligent.

          • Harold

            That may be so but being a liberal really shows how closed minded your thinking is , you see black and white but you can’t see all the shades of gray.

          • margey sebastian

            what shades of grey are you referring to? there are plenty when it comes to obamacare. being a liberal most certainly does not make one closed minded. you should really stop speaking in generalities, it makes you sound not too open minded yourself.

      • margey sebastian

        what do you have to say now??

  • Colin Rafferty

    Don’t bother commenting on this article, Jackson’s going to delete it soon. This is what he does when he’s called out on blatantly wrong headlines. Once he realizes that his headline is a complete lie based on his own poor reading comprehension skills, rather than posting a correction, he will silently delete the article.

    • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

      At least, that is what you are hoping, right Collin?

      • Colin Rafferty

        Karakot, I’d much rather than he man up and issue a correction. He’s deleted two other articles I’ve corrected him on. Just watch, this article will be gone by tomorrow.

        If it’s not clear, Obamacare requires coverage of babies under family plans. Jackson is misreading an already biased and sensational article.

        • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

          Just watch, this article will be gone by tomorrow.

          Any day now, right Collin?

          You got any actual correction? Other than “That’s wrong”, I mean?

          • Colin Rafferty

            I’m pleasantly surprised. In just the last month, he’s deleted two stories that were incorrect rather than print a retraction. Anyway, I didn’t get into details because everyone else had done such a good job. But I’ll summarize for you:

            His headline is a lie. The ACA not only covers babies, but explicitly says that someone under 26 can be covered by his parent’s plan. There is no mention of a lower age cut-off.

            The article he references plays fast and loose with the facts. The couple hadn’t actually put their baby on the original application, which is why he wasn’t covered.

            http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2013/12/8536774/obamacare-covers-babies-too-despite-post-report

      • johnmartin

        No I hope it stays up forever and stupid Republicans keep getting burned by their own evil anger and stupidity. I admire the half witted ones who at least questioned if maybe something wasn’t right that a 2 year old would be denied health coverage.

        • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

          Yeah, john. After all, we all know how well ObamaCare is working. People are signing up though the website in a couple minutes and saving thousands of dollars every day.

          Some of them even have the insurance they signed up for.

          • margey sebastian

            i do.

  • Rod Rieger
    • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

      Well, maybe . . .

      Kelly, who in 2011 ran and lost on the Conservative Party line for a seat on the Suffolk County legislature, said he was told three times by different state representatives that his toddler would require a separate insurance plan, and that his daughter would have to turn 2 before she could be covered under a family plan.

      .
      .
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      Kelly said the state only reversed course after he went to the Post.

      “Someone from the state called me and apologized,” he said. “Why would they apologize if they had done nothing wrong?”

      • Rod Rieger

        Has anyone else had the same problem this guy did?

        • calling all toasters

          You mean of being a big fat liar?

          Sure, lots of people.

        • LinusToo

          Only those people who can’t remember how many children they have long enough to fill out an application correctly.

      • johnmartin

        Why would you believe this hack loser in the first place. Hey, we won’t insure your 2 year old. That sounds right to me.

        • ConspiracyOfFools

          As has been said, Obama has taken lying to a new level, loser, never held a real job, never served with the troops in the trenches, why would anyone believe Obama at this point…
          If the Obamacare rollout had happened this summer, it would have been defunded instead of the government shutdown Harry Reid caused by ignoring what the house sent.

      • Beth Ryan

        Apologies are for MISTAKES , not for doing wrong. Not in the real world..

  • Liberalmann

    You’re either really stupid or you think you reader are.

    Boehner Gets Caught Hyping Another Completely False Obamacare ‘Horror’ Story
    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/03/boehner-caught-hyping-completely-false-obamacare-horror-story.html

    HealthCare.Gov Improvements Have Republicans Scrambling For New Obamacare Attacks
    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/04/3018081/healthcaregov-improving-republicans-recycle-romneys-obamacare-attacks/

    Insurance Commissioner Compares Pre-Existing Conditions To Car Wrecks: ‘It’s Your Fault’
    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/04/3020831/georgia-insurance-commissioner-pre-existing-fault/

    But I really hope the GOP keeps trying to attack it and repeal it. It will ensure the Dem will hold the WH until at least 2032.

    • lkharter

      I agree. The demographics would so indicate. As long as the Dems can keep it on the road… always a test, I admit.. they should dominate the WH for the next generation. The local, gerry mandered “markets” not so much.. but I rest assured there’ll be a Dem. in the White House ’til the day I die…so I’ll go happy.

      • RevG

        Doc only gave you another couple of years to live huh? Oh or tell me he gave you 6 months !

    • http://mysteresmoonbatslayerclub.blogspot.com/ mystere

      DREAM ON Libbiboi!

    • shamu9

      There won’t be a U.S. after another 4 yrs, of Dem-O-Commie Dictator RULE! We’ll all be speaking Chinese, Arabic, and Spanish!

      • margey sebastian

        It’s happening, right? right? um,,,,,,,,,yeah, and he made a lot of progress in the first four years, right? those fema camps popping up, taking away everyone’s guns….yeah. it’s all happening.

  • blessed56

    See: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2013/12/8536774/obamacare-covers-babies-too-despite-post-report

    Another Republican operative attempts to scam the Mainstream Media and almost succeeds.

    • shamu9

      No only the Dems refer to their Propaganda Spewers as Operatives!! Kinda like Black Ops Hit Men!

  • hoopingandscooping

    Anybody want to buy this bridge I own in Brooklyn? You people seem dim enough.

    The posters I enjoy the most here are the ones who are still pushing it after reading the story was debunked and it was the father who made the error.

  • Lar5

    This whole story is baloney. Kelly, a conservative who lost an election, screwed up his application. End!

  • buckofama2010

    Well DUH, he wants them all murdered in the womb

    • johnmartin

      I see you are still living in delusional 2010. President wants health care for all Americans, even the evil ones like you that are out of date and uneducated. Every baby is covered. Only people who listen to right wing hacks think otherwise.

      • Ernest L. Abel

        Then why does Obamacare NOT wind up covering approximately 30 million people after its fully inplemented. and before we had around 15 to 20 million not covered (and those where PEOPLE THAT DIDN’T WANT HEALTH CARE! Namely cause most were young healthy people working to get up on work ladder before buying insurance.

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          Try to think of it as the requirement to keep insurance for your car, (which I STILL have never seen cons whine about). No one is being forced to get health coverage. If you aren’t interested, you can pay the penalty and move on with your life.

        • carolchristine

          Or illegal immigrants living here.

          • margey sebastian

            illegal immigrants are not eligible for obamacare.

          • Beth Ryan

            It mazes me how many conservatives actually think they know! I am happy to see someone here who has a brain !

        • margey sebastian

          or people like me that couldn’t get insurance because of a pre-existing condition. believe me, i wanted it, but insurance companies said forget it.

      • shamu9

        Go Hack yer Tally- Whacker off, and then you’ll never have to find out if Kids are covered you Fruit!

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          There are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of kids covered by ACA. You’re just too stupid to notice, apparently which is why you gravitated to this story which is nothing more than a lie smear campaign that failed miserably now that the truth is out.

      • 7citizen7

        How many people need to be educated on the healthcare already available to EVERY person in the US?! I started working in healthcare in 1961 and have, over the years, seen and heard just about everything, good and bad about our healthcare system. I do know for a fact that every county hospital has clinics based on ability to pay, and so are their hospital bills!! There are also faith based clinics and hospitals that operate the same way. There is NO NEED for anyone in the US to be without healthcare NOW!!!!

        • carolchristine

          Why doesn’t congress want the same plan as the rest of us? Reid just told his staff they can stay on their government plan which is not the same as Obamacare. How about Obama and his family? Will they be on the same plan that we will be offered? I don’t think so.

        • Beth Ryan

          Have you ever been treated in a low income clinic? Perhaps you have. That would explain a LOT !!! I have had wonderful healthcare, then lost it, and know the difference.

  • Marti Settle

    Of course, if a family is receiving medicaid, the welfare babies are covered from birth even though they are born with brain damage and all manner of unGodly sickness caused by perverted lifestyles, drug and alcolhol abuse and french fries.

    • johnmartin

      but you are the Christian who believes these lies. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and bad grammar, Ms. “Alcolhol.” You actually used God in your protest that babies with brain damage are getting health coverage. In your world they would die quickly. What was that part about getting to heaven and Jesus not recognizing you….

    • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

      If that is true, then why are the vast majority of all crimes against children committed by self-proclaimed Christians? There are THOUSANDS of examples of Christians molesting and raping children, both little boys and little girls. And when you consider the fact that 1 in 4 women are either raped or molested by their HETEROSEXUAL MALE family members, I would think Christians would be trying to ban straight marriage, yet they are instead railing against gay marriage.

      • RevG

        BobEeeeeee you changed you name again and came to this site I see.
        You are one lying pos no matter what name you try to hide behind.
        You commie/liberal gay wad freaks are disgusting examples of why AIDS is an epidemic in this country. Look at your (.)bamasiah he looks like he is going to croak at any time.

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          Like I said, 1 in 4 women are either raped or molested by their HETEROSEXUAL male family members, so why aren’t you out protesting straight marriage?
          And the only thing your weak mind can come up with is ridiculous and false AIDS statistics? lol I’m not surprised. AIDS is no longer even considered an epidemic, as the ONLY members of the LGBT community that have to worry about it are those bottoms who have unprotected anal sex. So I guess you’ll have to get busy with more germ warfare because AIDS didn’t work! And there are more and more gay folks born to every generation, so you will never get rid of us, so I would personally like to thank all the heterosexuals for making gay folks, after all, we are the ones who engineer culture.

          • 7citizen7

            Check around about the AIDS thing–if you research it enough, and are honest in your research, you will come across facts of a new strain of AIDS that is said to be worse than the original AIDS.

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            If it’s true, then why don’t YOU research it and post your findings with proof? I noticed you didn’t do that, but merely ran your mouth with unfounded guesswork, proving that you know absolutely NOTHING about it.
            And instead of being ‘Born-again’, why don’t you just GROW the F$%K up?!

        • Beth Ryan

          YOU and YOUR comment are PERFECT examples of Christianity.

      • 7citizen7

        ” And when you consider the
        fact that 1 in 4 women are either raped or molested by their
        HETEROSEXUAL MALE family members,” Last I heard, there was not even 1 in 4 women in America raped, let alone raped by a family male member!!! Where did you get that information???

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          That is the statistic. If you don’t like it, I suggest you do your own research and come to us with your own findings. Why aren’t Christians out protesting hetero marriage? After all, churches today will allow couples who have committed adultery marry no questions asked. Not to mention the vast numbers of rapists and murderers who have wed in Christian churches, which goes to show that protecting marriage from ‘sinners’ is the furthest thing from the minds of the anti-gay camp. They’re ONLY goal is to vilify gay folks!

        • Beth Ryan

          Perhaps more are raped than report. I never reported mine.

      • carolchristine

        Who appointed you the truth police? What a ridiculous statement against Christians. You just babble on and on with false statistics. I could say the same about people who do not have a religion. Thousands of examples of Christians molesting and raping, really? How many thousands of other religions and atheists commit crimes?

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          I’d be happy to share some of the examples

          Christian Republican parole board officer and former legislator George Christian (Chris) Ortloff pleaded guilty to attempting to lure 11- and 12-year-old girls to have sex with him.

          Republican legislative aide Robert R. Groezinger pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.

          Christian Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.

          Christian Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.

          Christian Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.

          Christian Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.

          Christian Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.

          Christian Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.

          Christian Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.

          Christian Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.

          Christian Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.

          Christian Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.

          Christian Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

          Christian Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          I have HUNDREDS of more examples whenever you’re ready! And please, feel free to post any examples of atheist crimes. I can tell you that you won’t find many, because the smarter people are, the less likely they are to commit crimes, including sex crimes and let’s face it, atheists are hundreds of times smarter than the average ‘believer’.

        • Beth Ryan

          School of hard knocks is usally listed as their education. This is from my own experience.

  • concretetundra

    Totally proven false. Good God, how do people believe this? Too much misinformation on this here Internet. WOW.

    • atteloc716

      Not just internet, also all over Fox News,Fox Latino,Fox Insider etc.Not one outlet corrects error w/ story they pushed…[Hannity] biggest con.

      • carolchristine

        You people must be getting paid to come on here because you are not coming on here(this site) over that trivial story.

        • atteloc716

          Story is fake…and not one outlet who ran story including this site issues correction that it’s bogus. I would never have come to this site if it wasn’t for Fox!and I don’t get paid do you?

        • Beth Ryan

          I happened to see it, and speak up because I have seen TOO much false news and am finally about to stop all socia sites !

  • ImAPepper1942

    Do not call just one doctor, call two or three for opinions!

  • Paul H Murphy

    Totally incorrect story! But given the massive screw up it has been so far, it was a totally believble story.

  • Sarah Ohh

    I would love to comment, but people have gotten so cruel… I wish I knew how to delete my account but not sure what it even is :( Why are people so just MEAN to people who, if they met them in person,would probably like them? :( I have been depressed and people don’t understand how horrible it is to be bullied when you’re disabled and stuck in bed for your whole adult life…how do i make this all go away??

  • marks

    What a story! Turns out this guy simply did not put his daughter”s name on his Application. He went on Foxx Neus with this story AFTER his problem was resolved. Turns out he is a failed Conservative candidate for a Suffolk County commission seat also. Lies will never win out. But, even the Black Sphere will not take down the very false story. Great reporting No wonder Conservatives in Congress have a 7% approval rating

    • Jack C

      Spin, Spin, Spin, that all you liberals can do to try and save your Lying POS PRESIDENT

      • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

        “Spin Spin Spin’ is the sound conservative’s make when they’re caught lying.

        • marks

          you guys just do not know the truth/ Too bad for America

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            The “truth”? You mean like the colossal LIE that Fox News was caught in when the idiot this whole story lied and said Obamacare ‘denied’ his infant. He was busted, and you’re saying *I* don’t know the truth?! PREPOSTEROUS!

      • Beth Ryan

        I think it is very sad, how conservatives and liberals are NOW labeled, and at each others throats over EVERY story. We need to be ALL working together, in spite of our differences. Will that EVER happen ?

    • carolchristine

      Why is this a lie or a false story if he had to resolve the problem?. If there was not a problem he would not be trying to resolve it.

  • Harold

    Since when did the Brown Sphere become a liberal site? There’s so many sheep trolling here you can’t get a word in edgewise. Why don’t you POS’s take the ACA and stick it where the Sun Don’t Shine and why you’re at go give that fagget Prez some Browneye!

  • David Brown

    Obamanation!

  • Jack C

    Please if you want the truth about this story, go back and listen to the original interview on FOX NEWS. It took this family lots of wasted time to finally get the publicity needed from the State of NY to get this child on their family plan. They were told time and time again that Obama Care Would Not Insure a child under two.

    • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

      You couldn’t possibly get ‘the truth’ by listening to FOX NEWS. And if Obamacare supposedly ‘doesn’t offer healthcare for children’, then why are there THOUSANDS of happy families all covered INCLUDING their infants under Obamacare? Of course I’m not expecting an answer for someone who believes anything that Fox tells them, but I would LOVE to see you produce any actual evidence that they were denied, because NO ONE actually believes that horse crap except Obama haters.

      • 7citizen7

        Bob Judd: I would like to know the source of your information for : “then why are there THOUSANDS of happy families all covered INCLUDING their infants under Obamacare?” Last count I heard from MSM was that only about 100,000 had successfully signed up, and that out of how many millions in America??

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          What’s wrong with you? Can’t read??! I didn’t say ‘millions’, if you’d noticed, I said THOUSANDS, and according to your own conservative count of 100,000 I was CORRECT. I swear, the half-wits and under-educated folks who reply here are getting worse and worse with their PREPOSTEROUS comments.

      • Ben

        You know, the president and pretty much everyone that has promoted obamacare and talked about the ‘thousands of happy families that are signing up’ has had to go back and retract their statement because they were caught lying…… again…… and again. One does have to wonder, should we be asking how many times they’ve lied or how many times they’ve told the truth? I think I might be surprised if you can count on 2 hands how many times the obama admin has ACTUALLY used factual information. The fact that you espouse this belief that the only reason we are calling BS is cause we hate obama, simply proves your ignorance and that fact that you have no desire to see the truth. You will continue down this path until the truth comes up with a 2×4 and smacks you in the face, only then, it will be too late. Do yourself a favor, get on that amazing thing called, THE INTERNET, and do some ACTUAL research instead of repeating the garbage that comes from the mainstream media. And by actual research, I don’t mean jump on the closest obama brown nosing organization and simply repeat.

        • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

          If what you say is true, then why is it that this very article is a complete fabrication as several posters have posted the articles that show this was nothing but a stunt pulled by a Republican politician to vilify Obamacare, that he simply FORGOT to list his child that was told ‘would not be covered’ and received an apology (not sure why since it was his mistake) and the child was covered as soon as the mistake was found? So, I was merely reporting FACTS! And if you think you can counter them, GO RIGHT AHEAD, however I’m not going to hold my breath because I don’t expect any facts from such a whiner. So the only ones who were fed LIES were the readers of this very article who actually believed that ACA would disqualify a 2 year old, even negating the facts that tens of thousands are already signed up for healthcare, INCLUDING infants and children!

          • Ben

            Actually, I never backed up this article, though I do find it amusing that when a conservative group jumps the gun or lies it’s all anyone can talk about, and it’s ALWAYS malicious. However, if a liberal says something that’s false, well he/she was misinformed, it was a mistake, why would we ever think that this person would intentionally LIE or mislead? Fact: BHO championed Obamacare and stated that we all would be able to keep our doctors/plans if we liked them……. well that is not just misleading, it’s a downright LIE. And he can’t say he was misinformed as this is HIS bill… supposedly…. he took credit for it anyway. Fact: BHO stated that they would need no new taxes in order to institute Obamacare. Well, we all know THAT is total crap as the gov can’t wipe it’s own ass without raising taxes. The last figures I looked at were at about 500 billion in new taxes, so THAT was a lie. Hmm let’s see, it was stated that Obamacare would decrease medical insurance premiums. Well I don’t have to look far to see premiums have RISEN in 45 states in order to comply with the new plan. I could go on, but I would be at it all day, and that just for Obamacare, we’re not even touching the other, dare I say, dozens, if not hundreds of other lies and misleading statements made not just by BHO but the entire administration.

            But we don’t want to talk about that, let’s go back to a conservative who didn’t fact check and made a fool of himself. Maybe if we ignore all the BS in Washington, it will just go away….

          • http://churchofeuthanasia.org/ Bob Judd

            Obama should have said ‘most’. And if some have to get a different plan, SO f-ing WHAT?! It’s not like the get no health coverage, it just means they need to get off their dead butts and look for a plan, which only takes a few clicks from a mouse — you can’t tell me that Conservatives are that lazy! You should be kissing Obama’s black A$$ for stopping the insurance companies from denying folks or simply refusing coverage for any reason they choose. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of small businesses’ who’s employees never had coverage before. Will taxes go up? Of course, but they aren’t nearly as high as they should be — especially to the top 3% who should be paying 80% of their income in taxes, which would singlehandedly wipe the national debt — just as legalizing drugs would do. There are very simple ways to fix our economy that no Conservative will even consider. I didn’t even vote for Obama, but how quickly Conservative forget the DISASTER our country was in after 8 years of Bush and what a disaster was handed over to Obama — when you consider that, and how much better our economy has got, he’s about a thousand times the president than Bush or his father. Even under Clinton we saw more economic growth than when both Bush’s were in office. Yet cons try to rewrite history to fit their failing agenda, and I have to say it’s nice to see the gravestone finally on the head of the GOP’s grave, because no conservative will ever win the presidency again!

          • Guest

            If The Presdient had control over the many corporations that provide healthcare polocies, then perhaps your statement would have a point.

          • Beth Ryan

            Healthcare Insurance companies have really had to scramble and done a great job, at passing the buck. But, as we all know, “the buck stops where?” ;-) Sooo, think a bit, maybe a lot.. depending on the brain, and wonder.. if all healthcare were created equal, wuld we be better or worse? Corporations are cashing in, which we ALL should be able to agree on.

          • Beth Ryan

            Pardon my typo, Please.

    • Beth Ryan

      FOX ? OK, Now we KNOW for SURE its false…….. LOL

      • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

        Beth, I don’t know who assigned you to troll this page, but you are several months too late to the party.

  • margey sebastian

    oh really. you should be ashamed of yourself for posting crap like this. your credibility is nil.

  • Beth Ryan

    It sems FOX news stories, no matter how many are false, and have PROVEN TO BE Time and Time again, still are “the fodder” so many want to consume.

    • http://commentspammersmustdie.blogspot.com/ Kakarot

      It took you FOUR MONTHS to come up with that?

      Beth, sweetie, how about you follow Joe Malarkey’s lead, and fire a couple shotgun blasts though your roof, OK?