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		<title>By: jj solari</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12671</link>
		<dc:creator>jj solari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should keep it going. It&#039;s real interesting!</description>
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		<title>By: proudhon</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12645</link>
		<dc:creator>proudhon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve linked to your original quote in each of my last three responses to you (including this one:  http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd ). have you actually gone back and read it and the context? on good faith, i just went back and re-read that entire thread (all 200+ posts -- mostly people apoplectic over the fact that i dared to challenge them) and i have no idea how i, or anyone, could perceive what you wrote to be a &quot;joke&quot;. if you were &quot;poking fun at those who attribute quotes to the wrong people,&quot; then, to borrow your metaphor, you were the kook at the bus stop shouting non-sequiturs while others were trying to hold a conversation. it seems far more plausible that you unironically dropped a quote into the discussion to make a point about liberty being preferable to democracy...but i really don&#039;t care. so, whatever you say. you were making a hilarious joke, and i am obviously not smart. can we end this conversation now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve linked to your original quote in each of my last three responses to you (including this one:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd</a> ). have you actually gone back and read it and the context? on good faith, i just went back and re-read that entire thread (all 200+ posts &#8212; mostly people apoplectic over the fact that i dared to challenge them) and i have no idea how i, or anyone, could perceive what you wrote to be a &#8220;joke&#8221;. if you were &#8220;poking fun at those who attribute quotes to the wrong people,&#8221; then, to borrow your metaphor, you were the kook at the bus stop shouting non-sequiturs while others were trying to hold a conversation. it seems far more plausible that you unironically dropped a quote into the discussion to make a point about liberty being preferable to democracy&#8230;but i really don&#8217;t care. so, whatever you say. you were making a hilarious joke, and i am obviously not smart. can we end this conversation now?</p>
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		<title>By: FA</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12636</link>
		<dc:creator>FA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>once again you prove to us that &#039;what you believe it more true than the truth&#039;.

Yes, let&#039;s recap:
my first post: A quote I think is cool/funny. Never attributed it to Franklin, but was poking fun at those who attribute quotes to the wrong people by &#039;thanking him&#039;.
(Just because you dont personally &#039;get&#039; my humor doesn&#039;t make it wrong)

Your response: not franklin, learn history.

My response: I know history. I know it wasn&#039;t franklin. Added that nobody really knows who said it...I was poking fun at those who incorrectly attribute quotes. (i.e. it was a joke, mocking, ridecule, whatever you want to call it)

Your resonse: yes you did.

My response: Hello, it was a joke. (second time I&#039;ve had to point it out) wake up.

Your response: Let me recap &quot;my perception of what you said&quot; to show you how wrong you are.

This response: How stupid can you be? Let me illustrate what just transpired...

Two people are standing at an unenclosed bus stop. It is 15 degrees below zero. They are both dressed appropriately, but not overdressed.
Person 1: (joking) Wow, its hot as hell out today, eh?&quot;
Person 2: No, it is 15 degrees below zero. It is cold.
Person 1: I know it is not hot, jackass, I said hot, but I was joking. (and thought it was obvious based on the sarcastic &#039;tone&#039;)
Person 2: You have no ability to properly perceive temperature. You said it was very hot.
Person 1: I was joking! Did you choose to ingore that part or are you just stupid??
Person 2: You said it was hot. I said you were wrong. You said you said it was hot, but that you were joking. I said you were wrong.

Ahh insight into the libertard&#039;s mind. If you say something, even as a joke, they will remove any context they desire in order to make you wrong and ignore all common sense and anything you say and beleive what they want.

I had arguements like this with an ex girlfriend of mine years ago.... she, like you, believed that her perception (i.e. they way SHE understood what someone said) trumped what the communicator really intended to say. Problem is, her listening comprehension was poor. No matter how clear I tried to make the meaning of what I was saying, in hermind it was whatever she understood it to be, typically to fit her mood/motives.

This is how you debate, ph. 

Here is a tip to help you get along better in life: If someone says something and you clearly show that you misunderstood what THEY WERE TRYING TO SAY, be it a stupid joke or a implied meaning or whatever, stop. Listen to them while they attempt to recommunicate it or clarify their intent/meaning. Since it was something that originated in THEIR HEAD and the only reason you heard/read it was because THEY CHOSE TO SAY/TYPE IT, then they own, 100%, the meaning and/or intent of the statement no matter how you want to perceive it.

so, alas, at the end of this rediculously long response while I eat my sandwich, it comes down to this.... You didn&#039;t get my joke when you first read it, so by the twisted definition of your mind, it wasn&#039;t a joke...I was just wrong. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>once again you prove to us that &#8216;what you believe it more true than the truth&#8217;.</p>
<p>Yes, let&#8217;s recap:<br />
my first post: A quote I think is cool/funny. Never attributed it to Franklin, but was poking fun at those who attribute quotes to the wrong people by &#8216;thanking him&#8217;.<br />
(Just because you dont personally &#8216;get&#8217; my humor doesn&#8217;t make it wrong)</p>
<p>Your response: not franklin, learn history.</p>
<p>My response: I know history. I know it wasn&#8217;t franklin. Added that nobody really knows who said it&#8230;I was poking fun at those who incorrectly attribute quotes. (i.e. it was a joke, mocking, ridecule, whatever you want to call it)</p>
<p>Your resonse: yes you did.</p>
<p>My response: Hello, it was a joke. (second time I&#8217;ve had to point it out) wake up.</p>
<p>Your response: Let me recap &#8220;my perception of what you said&#8221; to show you how wrong you are.</p>
<p>This response: How stupid can you be? Let me illustrate what just transpired&#8230;</p>
<p>Two people are standing at an unenclosed bus stop. It is 15 degrees below zero. They are both dressed appropriately, but not overdressed.<br />
Person 1: (joking) Wow, its hot as hell out today, eh?&#8221;<br />
Person 2: No, it is 15 degrees below zero. It is cold.<br />
Person 1: I know it is not hot, jackass, I said hot, but I was joking. (and thought it was obvious based on the sarcastic &#8216;tone&#8217;)<br />
Person 2: You have no ability to properly perceive temperature. You said it was very hot.<br />
Person 1: I was joking! Did you choose to ingore that part or are you just stupid??<br />
Person 2: You said it was hot. I said you were wrong. You said you said it was hot, but that you were joking. I said you were wrong.</p>
<p>Ahh insight into the libertard&#8217;s mind. If you say something, even as a joke, they will remove any context they desire in order to make you wrong and ignore all common sense and anything you say and beleive what they want.</p>
<p>I had arguements like this with an ex girlfriend of mine years ago&#8230;. she, like you, believed that her perception (i.e. they way SHE understood what someone said) trumped what the communicator really intended to say. Problem is, her listening comprehension was poor. No matter how clear I tried to make the meaning of what I was saying, in hermind it was whatever she understood it to be, typically to fit her mood/motives.</p>
<p>This is how you debate, ph. </p>
<p>Here is a tip to help you get along better in life: If someone says something and you clearly show that you misunderstood what THEY WERE TRYING TO SAY, be it a stupid joke or a implied meaning or whatever, stop. Listen to them while they attempt to recommunicate it or clarify their intent/meaning. Since it was something that originated in THEIR HEAD and the only reason you heard/read it was because THEY CHOSE TO SAY/TYPE IT, then they own, 100%, the meaning and/or intent of the statement no matter how you want to perceive it.</p>
<p>so, alas, at the end of this rediculously long response while I eat my sandwich, it comes down to this&#8230;. You didn&#8217;t get my joke when you first read it, so by the twisted definition of your mind, it wasn&#8217;t a joke&#8230;I was just wrong. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: proudhon</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12618</link>
		<dc:creator>proudhon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s recap FA. your first post: fabricated franklin quote attributed to franklin. my response: not franklin, learn history. your next post: i never said it was franklin. my response: err, yes you did, http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd . your response: of course i said it was franklin, i did it to prove to you how dumb you liberals are.

if you put this much effort in *before* you wrote, FA, you might not have to resort to these logical contortions once someone w/ half a brain reads your posts. stop calling people names, you haven&#039;t earned the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s recap FA. your first post: fabricated franklin quote attributed to franklin. my response: not franklin, learn history. your next post: i never said it was franklin. my response: err, yes you did, <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd</a> . your response: of course i said it was franklin, i did it to prove to you how dumb you liberals are.</p>
<p>if you put this much effort in *before* you wrote, FA, you might not have to resort to these logical contortions once someone w/ half a brain reads your posts. stop calling people names, you haven&#8217;t earned the right.</p>
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		<title>By: FA</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12614</link>
		<dc:creator>FA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg, jj you are right, prudehon is dumb as a box of rocks....

I guess, ph, I have to spell it out for you. Ugh.

The quote was just that, a quote. I thanked Jefferson as a joke. I was poking fun at the way people (like you) believe everything they read, when it suits their needs.

I wanted to say I can&#039;t believe I had to explain that...but then again...in the spirit of &quot;calling people names and disparaging people’s intelligence&quot;, I should have expected it from you. Moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg, jj you are right, prudehon is dumb as a box of rocks&#8230;.</p>
<p>I guess, ph, I have to spell it out for you. Ugh.</p>
<p>The quote was just that, a quote. I thanked Jefferson as a joke. I was poking fun at the way people (like you) believe everything they read, when it suits their needs.</p>
<p>I wanted to say I can&#8217;t believe I had to explain that&#8230;but then again&#8230;in the spirit of &#8220;calling people names and disparaging people’s intelligence&#8221;, I should have expected it from you. Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: jj solari</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12436</link>
		<dc:creator>jj solari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proudhon, you might actually be stupider and more dense and impervious to useful criticism than that rhythm-free, girlie-armed, helmet-wearing, bicyclerider-in-chief with the uglystick-beaten wife. In fact, ARE you Michelle Obama????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proudhon, you might actually be stupider and more dense and impervious to useful criticism than that rhythm-free, girlie-armed, helmet-wearing, bicyclerider-in-chief with the uglystick-beaten wife. In fact, ARE you Michelle Obama????</p>
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		<title>By: jj solari</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12420</link>
		<dc:creator>jj solari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally have to take deep and profound exception to a Kevin Jackson opinion: I think Paris Hilton is our greatest American. I could write a long essay on why I think this. Which I won&#039;t do here. That&#039;s way too much work for free. But I did want to go on record. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally have to take deep and profound exception to a Kevin Jackson opinion: I think Paris Hilton is our greatest American. I could write a long essay on why I think this. Which I won&#8217;t do here. That&#8217;s way too much work for free. But I did want to go on record. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: proudhon</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12416</link>
		<dc:creator>proudhon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never said *you* fabricated it, just that it was fabricated. and &quot;for the record&quot; you did attribute it to franklin: http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd

i know this may seem petty, but i hate hypocrisy, and you persist in calling people names and disparaging people&#039;s intelligence, yet are so wrong so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never said *you* fabricated it, just that it was fabricated. and &#8220;for the record&#8221; you did attribute it to franklin: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ylhz9pd</a></p>
<p>i know this may seem petty, but i hate hypocrisy, and you persist in calling people names and disparaging people&#8217;s intelligence, yet are so wrong so often.</p>
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		<title>By: FA</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12415</link>
		<dc:creator>FA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry about all the typos above, I hope it didn&#039;t lose its meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about all the typos above, I hope it didn&#8217;t lose its meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: FA</title>
		<link>http://theblacksphere.net/obama-nobel-farce/#comment-12414</link>
		<dc:creator>FA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think that &quot;The fruit of that sub-human treatment is the stupid rap self-hating music &quot;? Ha. If that were the case, why did it take decades to surface?

I say it stems from a choice. Be a victim and whine about &#039;da man&#039;. or BE a man and be responsible for yourself. someone &#039;whined&#039; about their situation of drugs, vilence and whatever, put it to cadence and tada! Rap music. (there is a lot of sarcasm in there, so please don&#039;t pick apart my music history)

everyone in this world wants money, comfort and love. Someone who has none of those and is in the same situation as the above guy sees that he can make loads of money and try to buy the other two and tada! another rapper. Somewhere along the line someone tried to give it history and meaning....give it hear and soul. The honorable Barry White would turn over in his grave. It is about getting rich and it works, so more power to them. Don&#039;t make it about history. It ain&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think that &#8220;The fruit of that sub-human treatment is the stupid rap self-hating music &#8220;? Ha. If that were the case, why did it take decades to surface?</p>
<p>I say it stems from a choice. Be a victim and whine about &#8216;da man&#8217;. or BE a man and be responsible for yourself. someone &#8216;whined&#8217; about their situation of drugs, vilence and whatever, put it to cadence and tada! Rap music. (there is a lot of sarcasm in there, so please don&#8217;t pick apart my music history)</p>
<p>everyone in this world wants money, comfort and love. Someone who has none of those and is in the same situation as the above guy sees that he can make loads of money and try to buy the other two and tada! another rapper. Somewhere along the line someone tried to give it history and meaning&#8230;.give it hear and soul. The honorable Barry White would turn over in his grave. It is about getting rich and it works, so more power to them. Don&#8217;t make it about history. It ain&#8217;t.</p>
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