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Every troop takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution with a US Flag present.

Every civil servant/officer takes an oath of office and swears to uphold the US Constitution and the state constitution, again with a US Flag present.

Watch the confrontation between these Campbell, Wisconsin, policemen and some citizens peacefully holding signs and US Flags.

Why didn’t the policemen at the scene explain the ordinance the sign and flag holders were violating?

This is rather disturbing, especially given the trend under Obama to infringe more and more of our constitutionally guaranteed rights.

Here is the oath of office taken by Madison, Wisconsin, police:

OathofOffice

I would imagine the Campbell oath of office is very similar. The officers are tasked with defending the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of Wisconsin.

The First Amendment of the Constitution states:

Congress shall make no law… abridging…the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

From the inception of the colonies the right to petition/assemble was implicit:

In 1774, the Declaration and Resolves of the First Continental Congress proclaimed that the colonists “have a right peaceably to assemble, consider of their grievances, and petition the King; and that all prosecutions, prohibitory proclamations, and commitments for the same, are illegal.”

The emphasis on the government’s lack of power to punish a citizen for petitioning made the right to petition more robust in the revolutionary era than the more general right to freedom of speech.

These citizens were not flag-burners nor were they terrorists. Something is wrong when US citizens obey the Constitution and honor the flag, and yet are harassed and cited, compelled to appear in court before a judge and/or pay a fine.

Something is wrong, and we should all be on guard!

 
 
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  • Susannah Fedders

    “HEY MR. POPO COME TOO…….KENTUCKY WE HAVE LOTS OF AMERICAN FLAGS FLYING AND IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT WE WILL SICK THE POLE UP YOUR ASS AND FLY YOU AT HALF MASK “AUH COME ON !!!!

    • Dr Lopez

      That is the kind of response we the people need to say to these anti-American thugs. We have had enough and we are NOT going to take it any more. Specifically from the criminal elements loyal to this President, destroyer of our country. He is pushing our buttons hard. Maybe we should give him what he wants, a hard push back.

      • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

        Dr. Lopez,

        I’m going to repeat what I posted above:

        Here are the facts:
        1. The city has a law against displaying signs, etc from the highway over pass. It is their right to make such a law because they deem it is an issue of safety.

        2. These men were violating the law, whether they knew it or not.

        3. And officer arrives and politely tells them about the law.

        4. At this point, instead say, “Sorry, officer, we were unaware of that law,” and then courteously and politely leaving the scene to be in compliance with said law, the began agitating the police officer and making all sorts of false claims about their rights being denied, that the Constitution supported them, etc.

        5. The officer continued to behave in a professional manner and another officer was called to help explain. These demonstrator jerks still refused to leave and harassed, belittled, and demeaned the police officers, all the while demonstrating their ignorance of how said law was NOT in violation of any rights.

        The demonstrators were wrong, wrong, wrong with all their actions. And yet you people on this string are so anti-police that you don’t listen to reason, to don’t examine the facts, you just go off on emotionalism. Guess what – that is what LIBERALS do!

        The police weren’t anti-American; you embarrass yourself by so claiming.

        • Charles Batchelor

          THEY ARE NOT FALSE CLAIMS! A claim is only false if the court rules against their position otherwise they are making a claim that the Constitution supports them.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Dream on

  • Susannah Fedders

    Hey Mr.PoPo I have Ky family up there you can talk too!!

  • WealthyNot

    I have come to generally appreciate Wisconsin more and more in the past year, but this kind of slows me down a bit. Yet my one greatest shame in life remains that I live in Illinois. It still is encouraging that WI is the ONLY state that has a fully funded public employees pension fund, according to CBS news last week. Illinois has so much debt, it likely will never recover without bankruptcy — the sooner the better.

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      As a former resident who was born and lived there for over 60 years….WI has always had High Tax and High Regulation…..Gov Walker and the present Legislature are tryiing to change this trend…but they have a long way to go…..As former teachers…my wife and I….we were glad to see the Unions get busted….

  • klee

    GO TO COURT…. I BET THEY DON’T MAKE YOU PAY THE FINE….It is just like when schools, and places of work WANT TO BE PC AND NOT WANTING TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS OR SING CHRISTMAS SONGS…. IT IS YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, AND IF YOU CHALLENGE IT IN A COURT YOU WILL WIN…The people who run that state, are COMMIE’S AND AMERICA HATING morons, who feel they will get in with ODUMDUM by using his antics….BUT IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE STAND UP AND GO TO COURT……IT MEANS SOMETHING… TO CAVE AND REMAIN SILENT IS WHEN YOU LOOSE YOUR FREEDOMS….Don’t back down… know your rights, and if you don’t know them LEARN THEM!!!

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      I was born and grew up and lived in WI until about 6 years ago….and not far north of where this took place….WI is a Liberal State….but has put in a Conservative Governor and a Repulican Legislature….But the voters particular in Milwaukee and Ultira Liberal Madison…do strange things….they relected most of the State senators in the Recall Election…plus Gov Walker….then turned around and reelected the “Little Boy Dictator….and the Liberal Lesbian Femminist Tammy Baldwin to Senate…My personal experience is they like Over Regulation and laws to control everything you do….The state DNR…Department of Nutty Rejects….wants to control land use….so that you can’t do anything on your own land….an most other agencies are no better..

  • Jim Bob

    There is only one side of the story being told here. I would like to hear the other before I prematurely pass judgment. I’m a conservative so I will think before I feel, unlike liberals.

  • Hotnike

    Since when is there an ordinance against displaying the U.S. Flag unless it is obstructing sight and making something dangerous,

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      The ordinance wasn’t about the flag – from what the officer said it appears that the ordinance prohibits ANYTHING from being displayed over the highway.

      • Hotnike

        We had the same situation in Minnesota in two northern suburbs of Minneapolis. Several American Legion posts had flags flying on passovers of a freeway. The police tried to have them taken down after they have been flying for years. The legion post protested to Govenor Dayton who in turn had the state put up stronger brackets so the flags wouldn’t be flying off the overpasses. The flas are still flying today.

  • Ken Bowman

    Biggie Rat O Bastard is Public ENEMY number ONE! A Muslim raised and brain washed Kenyan by communist propaganda by his Anti Christ Mother an known communist anti American HATER!

    We the People are being attacked by a entrenched well funded ENEMY known as Communism that like cancer has infected all segments of our society. We the People of America loyal to the United States Constitution must FIGHT this ENEMY!

  • poptoy1949

    An American Flag? My GOD what is happening to this country?

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      It wasn’t about the flag.

      • jojo the dog face boy

        yeah It was about the impeach Obama signs

        • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

          It was about violating a law. Or are you like liberals who ignore the law and do what they want?

          • poptoy1949

            Sorry….No Liberal here. Staunch Conservative

  • Dr Lopez

    What exactly was the legal ordinance these police were following? As if it matters. The folks in Wisconsin, good for you. Take it further and start to get these guys fired. I do not use the phrase any more ” I know you are just trying to do your Job”. Why? Because these policemen are not mindless three year olds who do not know the difference between right and wrong. This President is getting his way because we , the American people are letting him. Do not feel pressured or guilty for pushing back people who want to control your freedom,your mind,your free speech and the right to defend yourselves. If you do, we will have a American genocide. Think it can not happen ? YOU ARE WRONG!! God Bless America!!

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      This incident had nothing to do with Obamanation. The law was violated, and the law was a proper law. The jerks bullying the police were in the wrong.

  • Laddyboy

    I would love to know the outcome of their court sessions.

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      The police and city would win, because their law does not violate any constitutional rights

  • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

    These guys were being jerks. The police were NOT doing anything unconstitutional If the city has laws against displaying ANYTHING on the highway overpass, then the police have the duty to enforce the law. I can understand such a law being for safety reasons – not wanting to distract drivers.
    But all they had to do was say they were unaware of the law and leave. And if they didn’t like the law, then appeal to the city lawmakers. It was inexcusable for them to treat the officers the way they treated them. While the cops were polite and courteous, the men were antagonistic, harassing, disrespectful and demeaning.
    There are indeed plenty of law enforcement people in this country who behave as a law unto themselves, act as Nazi brownshirts, etc, but these guys were not in that class. They were only seeking to enforce a fully legal and constitutional law of the city.
    I have absolutely no respect for the actions of these jerks.

    • Hard Boiled

      amazing how lawful it is to disrespect the flag and free speech nowadays.

      • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

        But that is NOT what happened here. Read what I said actually took place.

        • jojo the dog face boy

          nobody here cares about “what YOU said actually took place” as you were not there so you do not know what actually took place. You know no more than anyone else on this site knows. But like most libs you THINK that you know more than anyone else. Sorry to bust that liberal bubble of your but you are not smarter than anyone else just louder and more obnoxious.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Did you watch the video? I did, and I saw people who were told that they were violating a law and the demonstrators became bullies.

            And just for your edification, jackass, you won’t find anyone more conservative than I am. But liberals, which you are behaving as, run on emotionalism instead of rational thought.

  • Vrahnos

    The thing is that if o person or a group has a greavanc against the government there is a prosses for doing so.All they were doing was having a protest So they should understand what the laws in their area before they protest and where it is safe and leagle.So all in all they were doing good but in the wrong way for what they trying to repensent.

  • Brad Krane

    Glenn is absolutely right,these officers DID NOT write this statue that these folks were allegedly violating. The officers didn’t appear to be happy to serve them the citations BUT were being obedient by the city that employs them to do their duty. And if I were one of those officers,I sure would have locked up that BIG MOUTH that kept yelling for them to respect the flag…blah blah as he was inciting that bunch of people to get rowdy and he knows it was wrong because you can bet you but he wouldn’t yell at those officers if it were just him and them ….GUARANTEE!!!

  • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

    I am originally from WI…and know exactly where this took place…..as I did not live that far north there….I am not surprised that this happened in the Liberal State of WI…..that LOVES LAWS AND REGUALTIONS…..And Taxes….As a business owner…I stated many times….If they can’t tax you out of existence….They will regulate you out of existence…If they can’t do it with one method…they will use both…..THE POINT OF THIS TO THIS DISGUSTING EVENT IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CONTROLING THE PEOPLE WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS AND ACTS…
    The statement above that these people were Constitutional loving people who were not buring the Flag…….In this time…witih the “Little Boy Dictator” and his THUG REGIME….and all the rest of the MAXIST SOCIALIST CO-CONSPIRATORS….IF THEY BURNED THE FLAG….THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AND WOULD BE ENCOURAGED…

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      Can you point to the Constitution where it says that a city cannot write a law to prevent people from displaying signs and such on a highway overpass? Can you cite what violation of these mens’ rights took place?

      These guys were jerks. The city has the law for safety reasons and the police were just doing their jobs. IF these protesters had just said, “Oops, we didn’t know about that law,” and then departed the area, there would have been no further actions. Instead, they decided to mouth off, bully the cops, belittle and demean them for doing their jobs. They should take up their complaint with the city lawmakers.

  • smarter than them

    Last night my daughter’s EX tried to back his truck over me but after driving 8 ft into my yard his truck got stopped by the snow. When the cops came they said I do not own the 10 ft of grass in my yard near the street so he did nothing wrong! He even punched it and tore the grass up with the snow. I admitted that I started screaming at the punk while he did this. The cop said I could be arrested for disorderly conduct for yelling at a punk tearing my lawn up!!! I laughed in his face I asked him to arrest me for it. Cops are dirty as hell !!!

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      Your overgeneralization of cops being dirty is nonsense. While there are corrupt cops, they are in the minority. And every city I’ve lived in (and there have been many), a large section of the front yard is NOT your property, rather it is a city easement. So learn the law first before sounding foolish.

      Other than that, it would have been your word against the ex’s word about what motives took place.

      • Charles Batchelor

        City Easement doesn’t make it city property only that the city has rights to say what can or can’t be done there and that the city has unrestricted access to that part. It IS your property, that is why you can be sued if someone trips and falls there. Easement doesn’t equal ownership. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easement

    • Charles Batchelor

      You do in fact own those 10ft, the cop is wrong. There is a public access exception of sorts but trying to hit you with the truck is a Attempted Murder or Attempted Vehicular Homicide Charge, and most definitely a Destruction of Private Property even if its publicly accessible.

  • Shirley Nanos

    We just witnessed the police not enforcing the oath of office they took. I demand they be tried for TREASON. The answer to tyranny is to disobey their orders. This is way beyond funny, and had better be nipped in the bud before this gets truly out of hand. As it moves forward day by day. ARREST OBAMA TODAY. HE DOES NOT NEED TO BE IMPEACHED. HE HAS COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST THE USA

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      Shirley,
      Please explain rationally, without all your emotionalism, how the police were not adhering to their oath of office. Explain what treasonous act they committed.

      Their orders were lawful and well as moral.

      And Obama is not the topic of this string.

      • Shirley Nanos

        I can go in depth and explain how on many levels this is not acceptable. Now that I read your post I can tell you are for this country becoming socialist. So really no matter what I say you will still say something absurd. The Generals who will bring order back to our country has asked that the police and firemen stop obeying orders from a tyrant. This has everything to do with Obama because he has declared our country to be a Muslim country. And the police are carrying out his orders that Americans in America cannot fly their flag, pledge allegiance to their flag and now not even walk down the street with their flag. The police are supposed to protect the citizens, not stop them from being citizens. This is not lawful and moral unless you are in agreement with Obama and believe this is indeed a Muslim country. Well, its not yet sweetie, and I don’t see it becoming one without a fight. So you are either extremely young without much of a brain or you are a socialist. As you read other posts I am not the only one who sees this a treasonous. If you are not for America you are against America pure and simple. And for your information I love my country and have every right to be emotional when I see it being torn asunder by a person who is not even our president. As he was not born America he cannot be our president. Now you have your answer and I would appreciate you not bothering me anymore. I will stay American, you can be whatever you want, but in this case you are totally wrong.

        • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

          Shirley Nanos,

          So you have decided by reading my comments that I want this country to be socialist?!?!? Are you in the habit or reading your own bias into what people say? How can you even INTIMATE that I want this country to be socialist just because I support policemen doing their job by enforcing a legitimate and moral and Constitutional law? I asked what treasonous acts the officers committed. What you gave me was a bunch of lies.

          You turned this whole incident into some weird conspiracy theory. Never has Obama given orders to prevent people from flying the American flag – that is a bald-faced lie. Never has Obama given orders to prevent people from saying the pledge of allegiance- that is a bald-faced lie.

          The police did NOT disallow these people from carrying their flags and you stated in your lie. They don’t them the law will not allow the display of signs or such from the overpass and that they could go anywhere else.

          Then you spread lies about me wanting this to be a Muslim country?!?!? You know absolutely nothing about my political stance and yet you spread gossip? Are you a Christian? If so, I call on you to repent of slander, gossip and bearing false witness.

          Just because there are lots of ignorant people on this string who engage emotions rather than rational thought, and claim what the cops did is treasonous, that does not make it a fact. What are the charges against them? What actions have they taken against this country?

          I am 100% American, consider Obama a Manchurian candidate and the worst president in history, despise Islam as a religious/political system trying to take over the world, and I spent five years serving my country in uniform. Don’t you EVEN say I’m not for this country, don’t you EVEN suggest that I am anything other than a die-hard, gun-toting, Bible carrying American.

          You are showing yourself to be ignorant of what the Constitution says, and foolish about charging people with having beliefs they don’t have.

          • Shirley Nanos

            Okay Glen I humbly beg your forgiveness. Don’t feel like arguing any more with you. Have a good life, as soon as Obamacare goes into effect I wont have a life anymore. So I see Obama differently. Good luck arguing for Obama, he needs all the help he can get. Merry Christmas.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            If you see Obama differently than me, then you must be leaning left. I see him as the worst president in history, who is destroying our military, has treasonously supported our enemies in Islam, has sold out allies, is doing his best to ruin our economy, is destroying our health care system, is taking over our school systems to indoctrinate our children, and is corrupting society with his promotion of homosexuality and same-sex fake marriage. And the man is a bigot and a racist. I have nothing, NOTHING good to say about Obama.

  • Brian Hosmon

    The issue here is WHERE they were displaying the signs. Take it anywhere else. Get it off the overpass where it is distracting to drivers. And anyone, ANYONE, who thinks Obama had anything to do with this is plain ignorant. Just throwing it out there.

    • tkachuk175

      billboards every few feet aren’t distracting? The newer billboards with flashing lights aren’t distracting? Probably got really distracting once 5O showed up.

      • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

        I find them distracting, but that is irrelevant. The city determined that on an overpass such displays could compromise safety. They violated no one’s rights by making such a law.

  • Brian Hosmon

    Isnt that one dude the prototypical Packer fan. Dumb and obnoxious. Notice how I didn’t include any of his physical characteristics which make a Packer fan as well?

  • Scott O. Roberts

    I didn’t notice an American flag anywhere on the police uniform!

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      And there is some meaning to this?

      • KCTed

        In years bygone, almost all LEOs always had a flag patch on uniforms and coats. Scott is just making an observation.

        • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

          I don’t know, but i’ve lived in 7 states and many towns over the past 60 years and I’ve never seen many LEOs with flags on their uniforms. What purpose would it serve anyway?

  • KCTed

    I’m proud of these Americans..

    • KCTed

      I believe I heard one LEO say “I’m just doing my job”
      That’s been said many times before by those in authority…

      • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

        And usually when they say, “I’m just doing my job,” they are 100% correct and the laws being enforced are legal and moral.

        • jojo the dog face boy

          I see what your problem is. It’s their message. Impeach Obama that is your problem with all this TROLL

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Oh, so now I’m a troll because I wrote the truth!?!? Did you even watch the video, you moron?

            Here are the facts:
            1. The city has a law against displaying signs, etc from the highway over pass. It is their right to make such a law because they deem it is an issue of safety.

            2. These men were violating the law, whether they knew it or not.

            3. And officer arrives and politely tells them about the law.

            4. At this point, instead say, “Sorry, officer, we were unaware of that law,” and then courteously and politely leaving the scene to be in compliance with said law, the began agitating the police officer and making all sorts of false claims about their rights being denied, that the Constitution supported them, etc.

            5. The officer continued to behave in a professional manner and another officer was called to help explain. These demonstrator jerks still refused to leave and harassed, belittled, and demeaned the police officers, all the while demonstrating their ignorance of how said law was NOT in violation of any rights.

            The demonstrators were wrong, wrong, wrong with all their actions. And yet you people on this string are so anti-police that you don’t listen to reason, to don’t examine the facts, you just go off on emotionalism. Guess what – that is what LIBERALS do!

          • jojo the dog face boy

            you must be a cop to defend them in this action. Yeah a liberal democrat cop and still a troll

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            I will defend any cop who is properly doing his job. You are showing yourself to be an ignorant fool who apparently has no respect for laws or law enforcement officers. I suppose you’d be happy with anarchy.

          • jojo the dog face boy

            it is fools like you that give the world people like hitler he was only following his laws too

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            It is fools like you who give conservatives a bad name.
            So if a police officer gives you a citation for doing 100 mph in a 55 mph zone, and he tells you he’s just doing his job, is he also like Hitler? You are such an ass.

          • Charles Batchelor

            Well Glenn Parts #4 & #5 are in contention. Your stance is they’re NOT Unconstitutional, ours s that they are. That will be a matter for the courts to decide. For me, I betting that since they were clearly conducting a demonstration that they do in fact have a 1st Amendment argument. The safety argument losses a lot of ground considering all the other signs that are placed on the roadway by the city.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Charles,
            I don’t see how it could be contended that the officers acted professionally. Everything I saw in the video shows that they in fact did.

            The point is, that signage place by the city are considered necessary for the drivers, while the city has a RIGHT to keep people from demonstrating at that location. I’ve been in many cities where a street crosses over a highway and pedestrians aren’t even allowed on the overpass, even though it is just a normal street and not a highway.

            The city does indeed have a right to determine what actions create a safety hazard. Why was it necessary to have the demonstration there? Just to make a point?

            And here’s another point. How many of these people are claiming to be Christians? Christians are mandated to obey the laws of the land unless said laws go against God’s laws.

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      I’m disgusted with them. They took it out on the police officers rather than complain to the city who made the law. They were nothing but bullies.

      • chriscudnoski

        Yes they did bring it up with the town board many times. read all about it here http://www.dailypaul.com/307269/campbell-wi-police-right-citations-for-displaying-us-flag-dec-7-2013

        This is a town of 4200 people. They citizens and police all grew up together and went to high school together. Learn some facts before you start running your dumb mouth.

        • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

          Um, the facts shown in the video are all that is necessary to make a judgment as to what took place at THAT time. Whether they have petitioned the city has no bearing on the FACT that the law is still in effect.

          But what you are saying, if I understand you correctly, is that these jerks already KNEW the law and snubbed their noses at it anyway. They have NO reason to complain and are even MORE guilty than if they DIDN’T know the law.

          • chriscudnoski

            What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ do you not understand?

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            What part of their rights were infringed? They violated law and refused to admit it and instead bullied the police. Are you really that stupid?

          • vonveezil

            The law is being challenge in a court of law. Its Unconstitutional nature in itself, is repugnant. There have been many cases taken to the supreme court on this issue. A public sidewalk is a Constitutionally protected free speech zone. The pedestrian walkway over the interstate is a public sidewalk. In the Wisconsin Constitution it states that any law infringing on free speech is invalid. The US Constitution protects the free speech and the right to assemble. Campbell Wisconsin is not above either of those documents. Those officers made a choice. Their oath was to defend the Constitution only. They failed miserably. And yes, I received my citation happily and will do it again. When I have my court date I think I’ll bring a sign and flag with me. I’m standing up for your rights also Glenn even if you don’t want me to. Grasp the concept. It’s called the Constitution and it protects you as much as it does me.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            So, in your definition of the unlimited rights to free speech, anyone can yell “fire” just because they are on a public sidewalk, they can carry signs threatening to blow up a building while walking on a public sidewalk, etc.

            It is not a totally unrestricted right. If the city determines that safety over a highway (not a normal public sidewalk) requires restricting signs, banners, etc, but still allowing you to yell as much as you’d like, then there is nothing unconstitutional about it.

            You are just looking for an excuse to excoriate the police men who were obeying the Constitutional law written by city lawmakers.

          • OldNorthState

            The ol’ “so you can yell FIRE?” argument displays your ignorance… that’s NOT the same thing as a “free speech” issue, as that’s a lie delivered in a contrived manner that could end up in injury or danger for others (assuming there isn’t actually a fire). Such a prank has NOTHING to do with the rights of free speech. You might want to think that one through before you so arrogantly brandish it around as a “checkmate” maneuver.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Ah, AH AH, Nope. Notice I didn’t say a thing about yelling “Fire” in a movie theatre which could cause a panic. I’m talking about walking on a public sidewalk. Where is the danger to anyone if someone just walked down the street yelling “fire.” You only built a straw man. Try again/

          • vonveezil

            You’re hopeless, and I will still stand for your right to be hopeless.

          • chriscudnoski

            On this site + attacking what you did = TROLL

            btw what about shouting ‘Movie!’ in a crowded firehouse?

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            You are too ignorant to even understand what an internet troll is.

          • vonveezil

            When we win the law suits I am hoping you eat crow well. We’ve already brought 2 law suits with the Center for Religious Expression and Thomas More Society as our law firm. And after this time, there will be more law suits. The town of Campbell is going to go bankrupt from attorney’s fees or Obama’s economy will finish them off. Which ever comes first.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Oh, I’m so impressed. Fighting a law prevent the display of things at a highway overpass is a waste of time and money. There are more important things to fight in this country that to fight against a law intended for safety of those on the highway. It affects NO ONE’s rights do display flags or signs anywhere else, by you crybabies want unfettered access to everything. You are a disgrace to conservatives.

          • vonveezil

            Conservative? I’m an American, Glenn. If you don’t like it, tough. There’s 2 kinds of people in this country. People like you who wouldn’t know a right from a wrong and are sitting on their collective butts just waiting for everything to collapse around them . And people like me who think the Constitution still is the law of the land and is not negotiable. I’m defending the Constitution with the Constitution and with the Constitution on my side I can not lose. The only loser here will be you because your just to ignorant to figure it out. You want to live in a gulag then go right ahead. I will not comply.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Vonveezil,

            You are the one still wrong. There is nothing unConstitutional about a law which says nothing can be displayed from a highway overpass. NOTHING. How about addressing REAL violations of the Constitution – you know, like the daily business of Obamanation and his Demokrat and RINO lackeys.

            I’m am an American who actually understands what the Constitution is. And I don’t sit around on my duff – I’m active in protests against the government – protests against REAL violations.

            Quite your whining and grow up.

          • vonveezil

            Are you a paid troll? You seem to be the only one in here who has such a liberal lemming way of thinking. Whining. LOL.. your ignorance is showing again. In typical liberal lemming fashion. To bad you can’t play the race card on this one huh.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Oh, so it is “liberal” to agree with a city that they can prevent demonstrations from taking place over a highway because of safety concerns? It is “liberal” to say policemen enforcing said law are to be obeyed? It is “liberal” to say those demonstrators acted liked jerks bullying policeman?
            You are an ass. I’d compare my conservatism with yours any day of the week.
            And you still don’t know what a troll is, you idiot.
            Grow up you big baby.

          • vonveezil

            LOL. You’re funny. There will be more news from Campbell in the future. We’ll see what transpires. Because of the 1st Amendment you’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how misguided it is and I’ll back you on having that right to be misguided. That’s the part you keep missing.

          • xtina724

            I have a child who straps on body armor and weapons every day so he can report to his job on the southern border. *He’s* defending the Constitution and everything it stands for. You’re just wasting oxygen, you pathetic blowhard. And what’s so damn sad is that you seem congenitally unable to recognize that what you actually seem to know about the Constitution could be written on the head of a pin with a yellow crayon. It hurts my heart that he has to deal with the kind of danger he faces to protect people like you.

          • xtina724

            You must be *so* proud of yourself. Starting a lawsuit based on a question that’s already been asked and answered by any number of courts, including SCOTUS, with the intention of bankrupting a town that others — like those who live there — might like to hang on to…? Yet I don’t think I’ve ever looked so forward to hearing more about a baseless lawsuit filed against an inconsequential town by a group of misguided, marginally-retarded plaintiffs with a fundamental misunderstanding of the Constitution. It’s like a gift! Please, whatever you do, keep yourself in the news. We don’t have enough to giggle about these days.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            You are the hopeless one who doesn’t understand laws or the Constitution.

          • xtina724

            Yeah, the Supreme Court would like a few minutes for rebuttal.

          • Carline D. Long Jr.

            You are totally out of line and making scenarios up that are crap. Nobody was shouting fire or threatening to blow up a building. Damn Troll.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Are you really that stupid?!?!? I gave those as examples to demonstrate that “free speech” is NOT unlimited.

            You jackasses only know one term – “troll” – and you don’t even understand what that is. I am not and have never been a troll.

            You use the term the way liberals use “racist.” You don’t like the truth so you holler “TROLL!”

          • Carline D. Long Jr.

            Do not call names because you are incapable of expressing yourself in an intelligent manner. You sounded like a troll just making crap up to fight and honestly you still do!

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Oh, so you can me names and that’s okay? You stinking hypocrite! And you are still to stupid to know what a troll is.
            I made NOTHING up. A friend showed me this post, otherwise I would never have been here because I’m not a troll.
            You can’t stand it that someone actually agrees with the cops in this instance. You are just ignorant of what the Constitution actually allows.

          • xtina724

            Hey, sparky? *You’re* the one who called names. Maybe you should keep a log of what you post for reference?

          • xtina724

            Wow. Did you *really* fundamentally misunderstand his point, that the right to free speech is not absolute? Because if you did, it may be time to put away your Playskool My First Keyboard, get your jammies on, and head for bed.

            What he was saying, Einstein, is that it has been determined by SCOTUS that laws that reasonably restrict speech on the basis of, among other things, time, place and manner are absolutely constitutionally sound. Since you seem to have such desperately limited knowledge on this subject, maybe you aren’t the one to be running a lecture series on the topic and calling other people names more appropriately applied to yourself.

          • Carline D. Long Jr.

            I can sure see that what the immediate reaction to any disagreement received from the left is, to attack by name calling. Going against the wrongful law is the first step in getting it cited as an infringement on the constitutional right of free speech. With so many leftists starting their conversations by attacking the people they presume to have a conversation with such as; “What he was saying, Einstein,” and “Are you really that stupid?!?!? ” is just an attempt to belittle and not further any discussion. Speak like an educated adult without calling names and lets see where that goes ok?

          • xtina724

            No, thanks. I think I’ll just keep on responding in kind to those who want to be able to throw verbal stones but wish to reserve the right to not have them thrown back. You might want to backtrack to where the genius defending this idiocy declared anyone disagreeing with their nonsense was a “dumb troll.” At that point, all bets are off, and I can guarantee that people like that are going to get better than what they can give. And the poster’s question about stupidity wasn’t an insult. I think it was a valid attempt to find out if the person babbling away like a ninny was really stupid enough to believe what he was saying, or if it was an attempt to bait others into argument. I thought it was nice of him to ask. Personally, I’d decided he was a blithering idiot without wondering if maybe it could be excused due to a recent, grievous head wound.

            Further, I don’t feel the need to wave my conservative credentials, but one needn’t be a liberal to see this for what it was: an attempt to bait the police officers into debate or worse, and in no way honors the flag they were carrying. As I said, SCOTUS has been asked and they have answered the question as to whether one must be allowed to exercise the right to free speech any damn place one chooses; the answer has been a resounding “no.” Someone dedicated to the principles they claimed to be espousing would have worked within the system to maximize his chances of attracting others to his cause. Choosing the site these fools did had little to do with the Constitution, impeaching our idiot president, or promoting the ideals America stands for. They were looking for a platform, and as much as announced so when one of them took to bragging about the devastating lawsuit he’s bringing against this town, one which he’s destined to lose, and which I can only hope is trumpeted in one of his beloved YouTube videos.

            Despite my best efforts at raising butterfly farmers, I ended up with two cops, one municipal, the other federal. People who do not love this country and the Constitution do not do what they do. It sickens me that people like the ones involved in this clusterf*ck think they’re doing *anything* to promote and improve this country, and it hurts my heart that my kids have to do what they do on behalf of people like this. These “protesters” do provide an enormous amount of ammunition for liberals to use, however, in their quest to prove that conservatives are empty-headed morons, so I’m thinking that some folks will appreciate their efforts. Nice work — nothing like taking three steps backward for every one step forward to promote a cause.

          • elector

            I notice you have not progressed pat the Playschool Keyboard and not, the least bit qualified to make comparisons to Albert Einstein.

          • xtina724

            And I notice you have not progressed to the point where you can address anything I wrote that has to do with the actual topic at hand. How come I’m not even a *little bit* surprised?

          • elector

            It had not been established it was a distraction to the drivers on the highway. In fact, if you follow these incidents, the subject of distraction was brought up and was countered with the fact that Billboards are permitted and not deemed a distraction.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            Doe it really matter? The fact is that the city has a law against such demonstrations over the highway. Deal with it. Get it changed if you can, but otherwise, obey it. It is not a violation of free speech to restrict such displays from being over a highway.

          • Charles Batchelor

            In order to challenge the law, you first must have standing e.g. have been cited for breaking it and believe it is a violation of your 1st Amendment Rights. You then can suit in Court about it. You can also vote the F@#$s who passed this ordinance out of office then change the law.

          • elector

            I believe the poster said e received his citation and is going to court. Learn to read.

          • elector

            Abridging the freedom of speech or the press
            .
            right of the people to assemble, and to petition the government for redress of grievances.
            .
            Now avail yourself of a pocket copy of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
            .
            They did not refuse to admit it by appear before the Council and the Council was arrogant in their behavior; particularly when the Council Leader made the comment that it is sometimes permissible to violate the First Amendment.
            .
            The citizens, in response t one of the posts, do have standing as they are the recipients of the citations. If you red above I mentioned the cops ere doing their job and the onus is on the citizens to file their complaint with the Council and for the Council to provide proof the assemblage
            presents a hazard by creating a distraction to the drivers below.
            .
            Actually the stupidity rets back to you for your inability to read and comprehend what is written.
            Fini

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            It is YOUR inability to comprehend that these peoples’ rights to assemble were not violated. It was WHERE they wanted to do what they wanted to do which the city made illegal. As long as the says it is illegal, it is illegal. They can petition for a change if they like, but there is no Constitutional violation by preventing them from doing what the city considers to be unsafe.

            I have a copy of the Constitution. Perhaps you just need to learn to read and comprehend. Number 1, the Bill of RIGHTS in the Constitution only says what the FEDERAL government can or cannot do. And since the Feds weren’t there, where’s the Constitutional violation?

          • xtina724

            What part of “legally-established law” are you struggling with? Your right to speech is not absolute, and establishing parameters for protest is just about as American as things get. God, this isn’t even *hard*.

        • xtina724

          Jesus, take your own advice, will you? WTF does this have to do with who grew up where? And if they brought it up to the town board “many times,” they should have known they were in violation before they ever arrived on the overpass. And, since we can assume they *did* know the issues, they should be dealt with as harshly as current law allows. Blowhards should *always* be shut down as quickly as possible.

          • elector

            If you want to be taken seriously stop taking the Lord’s name in vain. Also because folks do not agree with your dogma you label them Liberals. I will tell you, point blank, I am as Conservative as they come and probably- one degree- short of The Jon Birch Society. By the way, I am a former Deputy Sheriff in a large Sheriff’s Department in the Midwest. Education wise chose not to follow the profession for which I was trained (Science). I, too have son who is a former LEO and former Marine chose to follow his education … CPA for one of the largest CPA firms in the Country. My other son, and a former Army Officer chose to follow his education also; a PH.D in Microbiology . Immunology and Genetics From a prestigious Midwestern Medical School and is a Lead Scientist at a very large Pharmaceutical Manufacturer in Pittsburgh. I mention them because you mentioned your sons and their callings. So far I do not accept you as having much if an credibility. The individual Cops are doing their jobs by enforcing an unconstitutional law, my opinion. The fault is with the arrogance of the head person on the city board by blatantly and condescendingly patronizing the citizens when they appeared at a Council Meeting to voice their concerns, which by the way is, exactly the proper way to do it.
            I will follow up and see if this case has progressed and what the disposition is/was.

      • elector

        Google it and you will find they did complain vociferously to the City Council, all to no avail. The head of the Council, in so many words, said he does not support the 1st Amendment and sais at times it ids permissible to violate The Constitution. Obama would love the Council leader.

        • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

          So, because the city council didn’t want to bow to their whims and change the law, they decided to violate the law and bully the policemen?

          Again, show me from the Constitution where it says a city cannot make a law to prevent displays of any sort from a walk over a highway! If the city council feels it is an issue of safety, they have every right to ban such displays at that location. The people could take their display elsewhere.

          • Carline D. Long Jr.

            Whims? Since when is the Constitution WHims? Go live in Cuba for a year then tell me about whims. I stand for the Constitution and people who call it whims will be the first crybabies shouting when they have no assistance from the government when SHTF.
            You Sir are a mistake about to happen soon.

          • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

            It is a WHIM to think that a city has no right to restrict what is done over a highway..

            Are you making a threat?

            I’ll place my conservatives, patriotism, etc against yours any day of the week.

          • xtina724

            It would be nice, as long as you’re standing for the Constitution, if you’d take a few minutes out of your busy schedule and use the internet to educate yourself about how it works. There is nothing unconstitutional about passing or enforcing a law that limits the amount of distraction idiots can provide while behaving badly on an overpass across a busy road. The crybabies are the morons holding a flag about which they clearly care little choosing to ignore the procedure established for holding a protest. The cops should be commended for not giving into the urge to shoot them in the foot.

      • xtina724

        Exactly. And they got what they wanted — a YouTube video they still think is going to make them some kind of folk heroes instead of proving they’re complete jackasses with too little education or information for an undertaking like this one.

  • spydersniper

    At this point, I want to see the Judges decision, and how long the officer lasts!

    • http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com Glenn Chatfield

      The officer will keep his job because he enforced a legal and Constitutionally approved law instituted by the city.

      • vonveezil

        wrong

        • xtina724

          Nope, he’s absolutely right. At least that’s what the two cops I raised tell me.

    • xtina724

      He’s going to last a long, long time. Weird, but judges often look kindly on those officers who are enforcing the laws of the communities in which they work. You can relax your colon now.

  • William Boone

    I called the Campbell City Hall and they say that it is an ordinance which covers any kind of sign, streamer, etc. not just the American flag. I don’t like it nor do I think it is in alignment with the constitution, but it is a valid city ordinance. Forgive the police officers as they were just enforcing their towns laws. People should complain, especially if they let the Muslims picket.

    • xtina724

      Because, genius, it’s on an overpass across a busy highway. It has nothing to do with the flag or your absurd xenophobia. And I’m betting the officers neither need nor want your forgiveness.

      • William Boone

        Thanks for straightening me out on this. Maybe we need to get started removing all flags that are within sight of any highway. Why don’t you get started on that.

        • xtina724

          And now I just feel sorry for you. There are only two reasons you would make that statement, and neither of them are good. Perhaps you struggle with comprehending the written word, and genuinely failed to grasp what I wrote. Or you’re trying to be sarcastic and failed miserably. Either way, the result is the same: you look like a fool. Now you have to decide whether you want to own being a fool because you lack the ability to understand relatively simple concepts presented in small words. Or you can admit you’re a fool because sarcasm is a higher form of humor, one that is definitely out of your grasp. Pick one; I don’t care which it is. In the end, you’re just a fool and probably should find another hobby while you wait for cartoons to come on.

          • William Boone

            Thanks for trying to straighten me out on this. I’ve read over your remark several times in an attempt to see it your way. I don’t see it your way. There is jealousy and distain afoot and your knee jerk reaction to my comment makes you suspect. We better fly that flag and pray without ceasing if we are going to save this country from those out to destroy it. We change the law and do away with our customs to appease people who have no stake in this country. Why not fly our flag in the way these men did. They are the hero’s in this matter. The police are the victims trying to enforce an agenda doomed to fail.

          • xtina724

            You’ll forgive my deep distrust of your claim that you’re trying to see it my way. And while you fail to present a single, solitary thing to be jealous of, I admit you hit the disdain (what I assume you mean by “distain”) right on the head. I can’t imagine what you think I’m “suspect” of, nor do I care, especially since you picked up the disdain on the first try.

            There are clear and simple reasons that you cannot fly the flag in the manner these idiots did. The most obvious reason is logistic: this is just one of a gazillion cities and municipalities who have been able to solve the equation TRAFFIC + DISTRACTION = POTENTIAL INJURY-AND/OR-DEATH-CAUSING ACCIDENTS, a conclusion completely supported by SCOTUS. Why you choose to
            ignore the painfully obvious is baffling, and I can only assume you do so to give weight to your ridiculous and easily-dismissed argument. For me, however, the reason is more personal and probably harder for self-important hypocrites to grasp: they dishonor and disrespect that flag by using it as a prop. It’s been stated over and over that they knew better than most that what they were doing was in violation of established law. They did it anyway and took the flag along so they could use that pre-prepared patter we were treated to on the video. That recording did them no favors — it just gave us visual and audio proof that even blithering idiots have figured out how to use YouTube. Want to hold a prayer meeting up there? Take yourself and your supporters right on back, leave the banners and nonsense behind, and this non-Christian will stand with you and defend your absolute right to pray any damn place you choose as long as it doesn’t violate the law. Want to hold a staged “protest” using the most important flag on the planet as a tool to verbally attack police officers in a venue you already know is off limits for that particular activity? Then don’t be amazed when others call you out for what you are — a disgusting little toad who should be forced to take a civics class until he understands what that flag *really* stands for, taught by soldiers and LE officers who live its’ symbolism.

            Further, as the parent of a kid who right now is standing on our southern border, working a mostly-thankless job that is dangerous and life-threatening on a daily basis because he believes so strongly in our country and Constitution, and wishes to represent what the greatest symbol of our nation, that beautiful flag, really stands for, I assure you that he and his colleagues do not need you to make them victims. Heal yourself first, pity those morons in that video, and work on recognizing what true patriotism looks like. *That* should keep you busy enough for awhile.

          • William Boone

            Just for your information I spent 32 years in law enforcement and retired in 2005. Your references to my being a toad, etc. only shows your getting nervous and irritated hearing the truth from people who haven’t developed a jaded attitude like yours. If you look back at my original blog I was defending the officers who were enforcing an unnecessary law enacted by a fearful government. Your long and elaborate response only exposes your confusion on the matter. If you don’t mind call yourself an idiot. I’m a little tired tonight.

          • xtina724

            You aren’t good at reading between the lines at all are you? Why on *earth* would anything you say make me nervious? Thank god you retired — LE needs to be far more perceptive than you appear to be. Further, you *asked* the questions that I answered. If you can’t put together a response, that’s hardly my fault. Instead of dancing around the subject, how ’bout you tell me what I seemed “confused” about?

            Were you one of the geniuses in that video? No? Then I wasn’t calling you a toad. Try reading for comprehension next time. Follow along on the screen with your finger if it helps. If, however, you recognize yourself in that description anyway, that responsibility lies with you. Your hubris is declaring that restriction an “unnecessary law” is beyond the pale, and I don’t think the government exists that would find itself fearful of you. You didn’t address a single thing I said; if you’d like to give *that* a try for a change, I’ll be here. If not, you can just keep yammering away. Everyone needs a skill, I suppose.

          • William Boone

            Let’s put it this way since you don’t seem to understand me and I don’t seem to understand you. Those men were doing something they believed in. Simple as that. If they needed a ticket, so be it. I hardly think what they did was so earth shattering that you need to put the rest of us in our place. We certainly make exceptions for other entities who want to express their cause. Give it a rest. The police were doing their job and the men with the flags were expressing their beliefs. In case you are unfamiliar with or past history, that’s how it is done and has been done throughout our history. I’m not wanting to argue with you. Just stating it the way I see it. I’m sorry if I was insulting to you. But, I believe in our right to state our belief in a public forum even if it warrants a citation. The men just don’t want to lose their rights as Americans.

          • xtina724

            With that I can agree, and how nice would it have been if this had been where we started? I, too, believe in the rights the 1st Amendment confers. I also believe that you are giving *waaaaay* too much credit to these particular people. Everything about their display oozes contempt for the rule of law, an egomaniacal belief that that their way is the right way, a disingenuous presentation of purpose, and disrespect for the flag they’re pretending to care about. Where you see men who want to keep rights they think are being suppressed, I see whiny little tools who set out to make a video they hoped would puff up their dubious credentials as patriots. (As documentation I’ll submit the Head Tool, who said on this board he had been to whatever governing agency regulates this stuff in that area, had lost the battle, and had filed a lawsuit that he guaranteed would bankrupt this city.) Not one single thing there sings to my heart and makes me believe they’re anything other than self-important durfwads hoping for 15 minutes of fame. Frankly, *you* deserve more credit than they do promoting their cause; you’ve done a better job at it than they have.

            As I said, my kids are both law enforcement. To see these officers abused at the whims of the people involved in this debacle, and for such spurious reasons, makes me outraged. The officers didn’t deserve to be treated the way they were and, with all due respect, the protesters have not earned your clearly-heartfelt defense.

  • Zeek

    This is an overpass over I-90 near the city of Onalaska, Wisconsin. I stand with the citizens who were displaying the flag.

  • vonveezil

    Kevin Jackson of The Black Sphere. Thanks for helping get this story out.

  • jimpeel

    The cop is right about the initial appearance. That is the point at which you plea and the hearing date is set. The officer must appear at that time of the case is dismissed.

    The funny part about this is the number of horns being honked which is illegal under excessive or unwarranted use of horn statutes. The horn is to be used as a warning, not a greeting or a display of displeasure or attribution. The cops who are harassing those displaying the flag ignore the horn violations. Go after the easy pickin’s. Good guys are so much easier to deal with than bad guys.

  • livefreeordie

    I think these people were being jackasses. They weren’t acting very respectful, and I’m sure it IS against the law to be up there waving anything at the cars driving because it’s a hazard. I’m a stern conservative, but right is right.

    • Ta Rouse

      I thinks it serves the public better if the law enforcement were educated about constitutional rights. To drag themselves into a debate about an individuals rights without being able to balance what is disorderly conduct and free speech. Sadly this places officers in a dubious position. We do have rights still, even if it is to be offended.

      • xtina724

        It would be nice if those people denigrating those officers had a little more knowledge about individuals’ rights, disorderly conduct and free speech, as well. Rights are not absolute; cities and counties are correct in limiting those protests in places where inattention can be catastrophic. The officers weren’t in a dubious position because of a law that limits the places you can conduct annoying and diversionary “protests.” They end up in dubious positions because of people who think they know more than they actually do, and because the protest in question was clearly designed to drag the police into a ridiculous display by these idiot citizens. I raised two cops, one municipal and one federal. Want to debate constitutional law with either one of them? I suggest you bring much more than the limited understanding you display here.

        • Ta Rouse

          Their was a reason they (the founders) called them inalienable rights they were to protect us from tyrancal forms of government. We really don’t care who thinks they more intelligent then the founders, We have yet to find a better form, than the designers. They placed their will and hope to a higher power (than the state. or someone who believes they have more influence).

          • xtina724

            The inalienable rights you reference weren’t included in the Constitution. They’re in the Declaration of Independence, and they refer specifically to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” The Declaration isn’t a legal document, so how you expect to base black-letter law on it is completely baffling. Further, given the copious amounts of writings that the Founders left us, someone who has, y’know, actually *read* the Constitution will tell you that those specific rights were intended to apply to them, and those like them — men, and of wealth and standing. If you’re going to base your case on this information, you might want to actually learn a little bit about what you’re yammering about. Here, start with this: http://blogcritics.org/the-founding-fathers-unalienable-rights/

          • Ta Rouse

            Thanks for your corospondence,
            Can you tell me if you think the bill of rights was not based on this “Illegal document” you refer to.?.. So many idiots think they are able to reinterpret this “illegal document” as to make it null and void.or say something it does not (BackASSword thought of church and state) OHH how wrong they are.. You have no idea. What befalls the fools presumptive mind. These people made most of their thoughts very clear. But only for those who were able to think beyond their egos. There are a number of historians now who have taken the time to clarify the writers intent. (of your “illegal document”).
            I’m glad to corospond!!!

          • xtina724

            Sweet Jesus. I give up — are you eight years old, or have you recently had a lobotomy? If you’re having trouble understanding what I said because the words are too big, just let me know. I’ll try to break it down for you. In the meantime I think I’ll just sit and feel sorry for you, and wonder if this is what clever looks like in your world. In any case, you should give it up, pal. You’re out of your depth.

    • Robert

      to livefreeordie you are nothing but a Islamic loving Obama ass licking peace of sh–t that is the way i see it

  • xtina724

    I, too, am outraged and disgusted. Not at the behavior of the officers, who remained calm and courteous throughout this ordeal. But those people demonstrating were no more honoring our flag and what it stands for than do other protestors when they burn or otherwise desecrate that flag. They weren’t there to peaceably assemble. They were there to see what kind of trouble they could stir up, and they got exactly what they were looking for. If anything, they should be pleased that they got the YouTube video they were clearly angling for.

    The officers were doing their job — enforcing a legally passed and published law. If this group of phonies and hypocrites wants to protest *that* I’m sure there’s an appropriate venue for doing so. On top of an overpass while traffic is racing below isn’t it. It’s not difficult to winnow out what they’re *really* after. As the officers refuse to rise to the bait, the protesters get louder, ruder, and more confrontational. Congratulations, asshats. You’ve managed to make Constitutionally-driven conservatives look just a little bit dumber in the eyes of those who root for us to do stupid things.

    • Harold

      BALONEY, Any person who would try to force people to take down an American flag is anti-American and a traitor to the Constitution . These officers of the law? are the ones who look and act more like brown shirted thugs from the 1930′s, Nazi Germany! Better wake up America .

  • Harold

    Remember this: “This is the republic of WI.”

  • Dr Lopez

    People speak of disorderly conduct. Yes, we could say the police were being bullied by these folks. However, how many police across the nation are being bullied ? Furthermore,I understand police should be allowed to enforce certain statutes . The problem is they are not doing a good enough job to serve and protect. There are many fine officers who are keeping their oath. Many are becoming brainwashed and in love with their paychecks.
    I am a combat veteran. I also took an oath to defend this constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. Now think hard about what that really means. People in public service ,as you well know are supposed to work for the people . Working for the American people means obeying the constitution, not their bosses, and not this crowd of evil of cowards who are still trying to destroy this country. Should you believe 2014 elections will solve this , you are either in self-denial or just plain naive.

  • cvxxx

    These idiots are just trying to cause trouble. There is no reason to stand on what one thinks are their rights rather that is for the court to decide.

 
 
 
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